Another poor performance never looked like winning tonight. Pitifull second half capitulation.
Things really have to change. We look a very very poor side this season.
What's the point in having lunt on the bench then not giving him a game.
Clearly the players dug us out of the mire last year not the coach.can not see us beating Bradford on Sunday either

We did look like winning. At 6-0, before Puletua came on. After that, no, and the coach didn't react to the change. Slack, disorganized defence, getting scattered up the middle again and again. Showed how important Buderus was to us in the back end of last year, and a mystery that McD persisted with Burrow, who has to defend wide, rather than solidifying things with Lunt.

Also, we have the most dangerous runner in Rugby in Watkins and he got precisely no passes in the first half and two bad ones in the second.

I'm really not sure what 'Rhinos' fans were expecting. You were never going to be competing with the big clubs like Wire in what was always going to be a transitional season for you.

You're into the CC semis as well so stop moaning.

Shut up moaning . We lost a very good game . Outplayed by a better team on the night . You can only play as well as the opposition allows you , and they were in control for most of the game .End of .

FAHCT .

Big clubs like Wire *guffaw* Granted you are making progress , but BIG ? Not yet .

But we are being outplayed too often and two easily. Won 7 lost 6 we are going to lose our title with a wimper.

I seem to recall many of your fans saying the exact same last year... I also recall many of your fans trying to sell us tickets to the grand final...

We are a much bigger rival to Leeds than that lot you played tonight.

And how many Challenge Cups have you won recently?

Last year papered over the cracks. No investment and a tactically inept coach

Your pack is very poor. It was domianted from the start and never got a foothold in the game.

If you could combine Saints forwards with the Leeds backs, it would be a very good side.

How many Grand Finals/WCC have you won recently?

Big clubs like wire. Shouldn't that be smaller clubs like. Come back when you have won a few grand finals and wcc. ( ps I hope you do win it this year coz we are not going to )

AWWWW ... I wanted to ask that question

Sorry mate

Watching as a neutral i just can't see what what positive attributes Ryan Bailey gives your team,he always seems to be either goading,conning or trying to intimidate and always seemed to be the 3rd man in on every tackle,but he must do something right to keep his place in the team.

Poor sloppy lazy defence tonight cost us any chance of being in the game

Wire fans shooting their load early again I see, who wants to drag up numerous embarrassing threads from last year

Played within ourselves again, stifled in attack by saints pack and totally out-thunk, out-fought and outclassed. Guess it was "bad" Leeds game time again tonight. Beat the dulls Sunday and all will be forgotten.

To be fair I wouldn't mind Wire winning a GF (unless we get there) . They deserve one , and I can't see it being too long before they get one . It is going to have to be soon though due to the ages of some of the big names in their squad otherwise it could be a long wait .

I know its non of my business but I have edited your post to remove the plural

What a bell end!!

Fully entitled to moan, why should we bury our heads in the sand just because we managed to win the Grand Final last year? If Hull KR beat Hull next week we're out of the top 8 which is nowhere near good enough for a club like us. We were awful for a majority of last season and have been this season.

There is a rumour going around that TMFMISL wants to win the GF from 8th this year . (os is it 9th ?

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It is common knowledge that he does what he wants .

Nice big hit right at the end tonight .

Classic Bailey

I thought at 18-12 we were in a position to take control of the game. We then got completely killed by Saints' quicker play of the balls and much more organised attack from that point on.

As well as their pack winning collisions they also had a top quality hooker behind them, we didn't have one.

Webb had a hand in the build up to all our tries tonight - we could do with signing some creativity next year otherwise I think we might realise how good he was as an extra pivot.

78 mins too late though.

And to be fair to Wilkin, he went straight to him after the hooter and shook his hand.

I thought Bailey went well tonight and was unlucky not to earn some penalties from Perry. How he went unpenalised all night is beyond me.

Obviously fans of sports clubs are not ever entitled to moan, for the reasons quoted above. They're not entitled to moan 6 weeks out of 13, because if they're outplayed, then they're outplayed and there's nothing to moan about there and that's the END OF it. Carry on. As you were.