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| Southstanders, I need your help.
Recently, I've been heavily involved with a campaign called the Coalition For Marriage (C4M). This campaign seeks to preserve and protect the definition of marriage which has served mankind well since year dot (the Garden). You will no doubt have heard certain noisy parties in the media declaring their support for an alternative definition of marriage. I respectfully submit that such a reclassification would have a profoundly negative impact on society.
If you are interested in hearing more, or if you are willing to help, please visit:
[urlhttp://c4m.org.uk[/url (McF, let me know if such promotion is permitted on here)
When you visit the site you can sign the petition and show your support for the existing definition of marriage.
Thanks
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| Seriously?
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| At least have the balls to say explicitly what you are campaigning against and then perhaps explain why people you dont know and will never meet, marrying each other will have any impact on your life or even you own marriage in any way.
I think believing the world dot started in ' the garden' is a load of superstitious but I would never dream of campaigning against people believing in this or any other type of space 'god' (except the flying spaghetti monster - hes untouchable)
And then try and join the twenty first century.
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| Quote ="rhino phil"At least have the balls to say explicitly what you are campaigning against and then perhaps explain why people you dont know and will never meet, marrying each other will have any impact on your life or even you own marriage in any way.
I think believing the world dot started in ' the garden' is a load of superstitious rubbish but I would never dream of campaigning against people believing in this or any other type of space 'god' (except the flying spaghetti monster - hes untouchable)
And then try and join the twenty first century.'"
Jolly good. If and when he does I will look forward to your rebuttal.
I'll just give Nicky Campbell a ring see how he is fixed
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"
[urlhttp://c4m.org.uk[/url (McF, let me know if such promotion is permitted on here)
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Its fine.
My opinion is exactly the opposite to yours and I won't be signing your petition, but you are still entitled to express your opinion, as are others to oppose you.
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| Wow, that's some seriously epic bigotry right there! Who on earth has the right to tell two people who are in love that their union cannot be called a marriage purely because they happen to be the same sex? Live and let live FFS!
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| Aren't there bits in the big book of folk tales which includes your "year dot" story which have men marrying more than one lady? In which case "the definition of marriage" hasn't been a constant all that time anyway?
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| Quote ="MjM"Aren't there bits in the big book of folk tales which includes your "year dot" story which have men marrying more than one lady? In which case "the definition of marriage" hasn't been a constant all that time anyway?'"
There's a lot more to it than that, this may give some guidance - I'm starting to appreciate where the OP is coming from now, if I could perm any three from the list then I might just sign the petition...
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"There's a lot more to it than that, this may give some guidance - I'm starting to appreciate where the OP is coming from now, if I could perm any three from the list then I might just sign the petition...'" It's sickening the way traditional marriage has been undermined these past two or three millennia. Who is to blame? I suspect the Nazarenes with their newfangled ways.
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| Actually, this para from the petition is worthy of closer investigation, it being the best example of whipping up hysteria with unconnected nonsense that I've ever seen...
Quote If marriage is redefined, those who believe in traditional marriage will be sidelined. People's careers could be harmed, couples seeking to adopt or foster could be excluded, and schools would inevitably have to teach the new definition to children. If marriage is redefined once, what is to stop it being redefined to allow polygamy?'"
So, in all seriousness...
1. How will "traditional marriage" be sidelined by allowing same sex couples to participate in a procedure defined as "marriage" rather than "civil ceremony", will fewer mixed sex partners perform the marriage ceremony because same sex couples do ?
2. Which people's careers will be harmed, specifically, give one example and I'll give a counter example.
3. Why would couples seeking to foster be excluded, excluded for what, for being married to a same sex partner, or for being in a mixed sex marriage, does this happen at the moment and why will mixed sex marriages make it happen ?
4. What has polygamy got to do with the subject, why introduce it at all, why not suggest that same sex marriage will cause the sky to fall on our heads - its just as relevant and likely.
There's four serious questions to be going on with, I do hope you're prepared to debate your issues.
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| If marriage can be redefined to be between a man and a man or a woman and a woman surely it's only a short step to it being acceptable for a man to marry a goat or a woman to marry a mule.
And they will be obliged to teach this in primary school! Will somebody please think of the children!
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| This country is on it's knees economically ,families are struggling ,1000's losing jobs and vital income ,we have ANOTHER Government we can't trust ,Europe is fecked ,we are still fighting an under funded unwinable war with youngsters coming home in body bags or maimed and the OP comes up with this??
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Southstanders, I need your help.
Recently, I've been heavily involved with a campaign called the Coalition For Marriage (C4M). This campaign seeks to preserve and protect the definition of marriage which has served mankind well since year dot (the Garden). You will no doubt have heard certain noisy parties in the media declaring their support for an alternative definition of marriage. I respectfully submit that such a reclassification would have a profoundly negative impact on society.
If you are interested in hearing more, or if you are willing to help, please visit:
[urlhttp://c4m.org.uk[/url (McF, let me know if such promotion is permitted on here)
When you visit the site you can sign the petition and show your support for the existing definition of marriage.
Thanks'"
What's wrong with a bit of cock every now and again?
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| Translation: I'm a homophobe and use the 'stories' of the bible to justify my prejudices/nonsense/outdated views that have no place in modern society. God botherers
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| Oh dear !
It seems some still persist in adopting George Orwell's famous story's definition of equality.....
I'd ban all religions that preach bigotry, prejudice, misogony, the inhumane slaughtering of animals, worshipping a made up super being and not allowing YOU to to enjoy a bacon sandwich.
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| What about sex change couples ? Not had your op yet....? Then nope can't get "married" yet.... Wait for it......hey you now have your new penis or Vagina. Go for it....
A secular state ( thank god hee hee ) should have no right to stop two consenting adults enjoying the same rights as two other consenting adults. Shame if it does.
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| Quote ="MjM"If marriage can be redefined to be between a man and a man or a woman and a woman surely it's only a short step to it being acceptable for a man to marry a goat or a woman to marry a mule.
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[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4748292.stmAlready is in some cultures[/url
And remember, these people share the same "god"
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"What about sex change couples ? Not had your op yet....? Then nope can't get "married" yet.... Wait for it......hey you now have your new penis and Vagina. Go for it....
A secular state ( thank god hee hee ) should have no right to stop two consenting adults enjoying the same rights as two other consenting adults. Shame if it does.'"
There's a strange anomaly that already exists in Civil Partnership law. If a same-sex couple enter into a civil partnership and one of them then transitions, the partnership is automatically anulled. Perversely, a similar situation doesn't occur if one partner of a male/female marriage undergoes gender reassignment
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| Quote ="cod'ead"There's a strange anomaly that already exists in Civil Partnership law. If a same-sex couple enter into a civil partnership and one of them then transitions, the partnership is automatically anulled. Perversely, a similar situation doesn't occur if one partner of a male/female marriage undergoes gender reassignment'"
All a bit of a farce then.
Love this forum. I learn more here than I ever did at school. Lol
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| Quote ="cod'ead"[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4748292.stmAlready is in some cultures[/url'" What a beautiful story of free love and sexual tolerance
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| What's wrong with a bit of goat's cock every now and again?
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| Quote ="Clearwing"What's wrong with a bit of goat's cock every now and again?'"
Nothing, as long as I can get some chips to go with it.
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| There's a problem with my PC - it seems to be displaying homophobic, bigoted posts from the 1940's.
I knew I shouldn't have installed that Windows (Self Righteous Service Pack)
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| Steady on folks, this guy could be the next President of the USA.
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| Marriage was probably put together so that men wouldn’t kill each other over woman. Laws were put together so that men wouldn’t kill each other over a whole host of trivial stuff. Have a disagreement with someone back in the day then it was duel till death.
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