[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/17958434Feel hard done by after been asked by the RFL to move their cup tie.[/url

Poor little Wigan
Maybe if they were a big club, they wouldn't be treated so badly by those big bullies at the RFL

Thankfully we have the RFL in our back pocket so we'll never have confrontations with them.

Saw that earlier. Pathetic isn't it. Can not see how this is the RFL fault at all. Clubs receive money from the BBC for the rights for the cup, and are therefore tied into their tv schedules if a match is chosen.

The fact that even non league clubs would have managed to get a game on, on a prime time saturday afternoon, should be very embarrasing for Wigan that they couldn't. Not owning their own ground, and more importantly been dictated to by the football side, is Wigan's problem and Wigans problem only. Don't call yourself a big club if you can't organise games at your priority.

I blame Hetherington!

Being.

Was there such a reaction from Wigan when they had to shift a play-off game to Widnes?

Shouldn't they be taking this up with that old geezer at Wigan Athletic?

Innocent.

Ian Lenagan commented:

"[iIt is excellent to be able to demonstrate publicly the togetherness and strength of football and rugby in Wigan. Having watched personally the Wigan Athletic games against Liverpool, Arsenal, Manchester United and Fulham recently, one can touch and feel the respect for the performances of Wigan Athletic as well as Wigan Warriors. I now look forward to great crowds watching both teams together that weekend at the DW Stadium[/i."





Will he ever see daylight again? Maybe when Whelan goes for a dump!

Thought I'd have a look what happened last time and

However


What's changed?

I think in internet parlance the RFL have just owned Wigan Warriors. www.superleaguefans.com/rugby-le ... ation.html [iThe schedule for the 2012 Carnegie Challenge Cup was circulated last year and all clubs have had ample time to put in place contingencies should a tie in which they are involved be selected for televising. It is the draw which decides the make-up of individual rounds, not the RFL, and whilst clubs must trust to fate, they are also aware of their responsibilities with regard to broadcast agreements. Whilst the RFL were informed by Wigan Warriors of the potential difficulty they faced as a consequence of their unique tenancy agreement were they to be drawn at home in the quarter-finals, the club were aware that should their tie be selected for broadcast, the onus was on them to find a solution.[/i

I think in internet parlance the RFL have just owned Wigan Warriors. www.superleaguefans.com/rugby-le ... ation.html [iThe schedule for the 2012 Carnegie Challenge Cup was circulated last year and all clubs have had ample time to put in place contingencies should a tie in which they are involved be selected for televising. It is the draw which decides the make-up of individual rounds, not the RFL, and whilst clubs must trust to fate, they are also aware of their responsibilities with regard to broadcast agreements. Whilst the RFL were informed by Wigan Warriors of the potential difficulty they faced as a consequence of their unique tenancy agreement were they to be drawn at home in the quarter-finals, the club were aware that should their tie be selected for broadcast, the onus was on them to find a solution.[/i

I dare not post on the Pie forum.
Won't take much for that tetchy chiponshoulder mob to issue a ban.

Quote ="SmokeyTA"I think in internet parlance the RFL have just owned Wigan Warriors. www.superleaguefans.com/rugby-le ... ation.html [iThe schedule for the 2012 Carnegie Challenge Cup was circulated last year and all clubs have had ample time to put in place contingencies should a tie in which they are involved be selected for televising. It is the draw which decides the make-up of individual rounds, not the RFL, and whilst clubs must trust to fate, they are also aware of their responsibilities with regard to broadcast agreements. Whilst the RFL were informed by Wigan Warriors of the potential difficulty they faced as a consequence of their unique tenancy agreement were they to be drawn at home in the quarter-finals, the club were aware that should their tie be selected for broadcast, the onus was on them to find a solution.[/i'" On the other hand, how hard would it have been for the RFL & the BBC, before the start of the season & after the Premiership & other soccer fixtures were arranged, to have this round of the cup one week later? There is a gap of 9 (nine) weeks between the semi & the final - too long surely? Reducing that gap to 6 or 7 would have allowed the later cup rounds this year to have been shifted back a week or so I realise there are other sporting events to consider but I'm sure a solution that meets everybody's requirements could have been achieved. Wigan are the team affected here but it could have been any of the teams who share a football stadium.

Quote ="SmokeyTA"I think in internet parlance the RFL have just owned Wigan Warriors. www.superleaguefans.com/rugby-le ... ation.html [iThe schedule for the 2012 Carnegie Challenge Cup was circulated last year and all clubs have had ample time to put in place contingencies should a tie in which they are involved be selected for televising. It is the draw which decides the make-up of individual rounds, not the RFL, and whilst clubs must trust to fate, they are also aware of their responsibilities with regard to broadcast agreements. Whilst the RFL were informed by Wigan Warriors of the potential difficulty they faced as a consequence of their unique tenancy agreement were they to be drawn at home in the quarter-finals, the club were aware that should their tie be selected for broadcast, the onus was on them to find a solution.[/i'" On the other hand, how hard would it have been for the RFL & the BBC, before the start of the season & after the Premiership & other soccer fixtures were arranged, to have this round of the cup one week later? There is a gap of 9 (nine) weeks between the semi & the final - too long surely? Reducing that gap to 6 or 7 would have allowed the later cup rounds this year to have been shifted back a week or so I realise there are other sporting events to consider but I'm sure a solution that meets everybody's requirements could have been achieved. Wigan are the team affected here but it could have been any of the teams who share a football stadium.

Very,

next week is the final week of the premier league season. The week after is the championship play off final, the Heineken cup final, the champions league final and an Amir Kahn fight. The week after is the magic weekend, the week after is the start of the euros.

Had the RFL scheduled the game for any of those weekends they would rightly have been criticised because the CC quarterfinals would have been ignored.

I knew there was a good reason for Hull conceeding their fourth round challenge cup game.

When you're just a lodger you can't afford to over-stretch the landlords patience.

What a shame they couldn't get their club organised enough to actually be able to fulfill the fixture list without b[ii[/itching & whining. Grade A licence, my .

I'm getting sick of petulant, ill informed club chairmen embarrasing the sport with their churlish tantrums. Add Lenegan to the list of Pearson, Hood and Hudgell.

We're very lucky to be led by GH.

We are. Although in fairness Lenagan is chairman in name only. Dave Whelan is the man with real clout.

It's like amateur hour with all these chairmen/CEOs of tinpot, loss making, non-stadium-owning clubs trying to pass their own failings onto the easy target of the Rugby Football League. Good on them for replying to Leneghan's nonsense.

If, as a club boss, you're going to [u[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/13336429publicly complain about something the governing body has done then it's beholden on you to get results[/url[/u. Otherwise it's just a waste of valuable Red Hall credits.

Where's this weeks 'Obsessed with Wigan' thread?

Ahh... found it.

In a sense this post captures the key reason running the RFL must be a nightmare...stupid chairmen with highly personal agenda's coupled with financial and marketing illiteracy ... a recipe for stasis that bloke Lewis did a remarkably good job in the circumstances.

Oh and any claim Wigan may have ever had to be the 'biggest club' in Super League is clearly laughable

I wonder if Wigan had much say when the negotiations took place about probable clashing of fixtures?or was it a case of 'your skint you can come and play here on our terms,beggars cant be chooser's'

There is also an underlying point that a person who makes a success in one business venture generally tends to think that they achieved that through having some sort of Holy Grail type knowledge on how all businesses should be run - whereas the truth often boils down to the fact that they got lucky the first time around and it might not work the second time, or third, or fourth around.

There is a saying in business that you don't have to scratch too deep beneath EVERY successful CEO of any organisation to find (usually) a string of failed business ventures, most are quite happy to admit the fact.

The problem starts when such a person buys their way into a sporting venture which is often seen to them to be a plaything, a private club where they can act out a fantasy and show off to other CEO's of other companies, its a vanity thing and their business sense goes out of the window the minute they park their car in front of the main stand in their own private parking space.

There is also the delicate issue of marketing and there is no doubt that the most successful business people surround themselves with experts in the countless other fields that exist within any retail or manufacturing business - you don't think that Alan Sugar actually knows how a micro-processor works do you, he came into business with an ability to sell stuff literally in a market, failed several times along the way and got lucky several times along the way, but he probably hasn't got a clue what went on inside the cover of his most successful products, the secret was, he employed people who did.

Sometimes these business people bring successful marketing ideas to their sporting clubs with them but other times they seem to forget that they need to buy in customers to their sporting businesses in the same way that they do with their other products, sometimes they just fall into the lazy trap of assuming that sports fans will just keep coming every week no matter how much you charge or how poor your product is and to an extent its true - how many times would you go back to Subway if the bread was mouldy and they charged you £2 for the same sandwich as the guy in front of you just because you were not from the town in which the shop is based ?

Alan Sugar once said "if you want to make money buy a business, if you want to lose money buy a football club".

Agree with all......except I wouldn't go back to Subway if they charged me 2 quid less then the guy in front!