come on he should be droped now ?
why dose Brian McDermott want to play with out a hooker (burrow is not a hooker)

a joke decision. i'm beginning to dread webb getting the ball in his hands.

bit of an over reaction IMO he may have thrown a couple of awful passes but also had a hand in the majority of our tries. Good on D tonight aswell.

At the end of the day he is the best optopn at the club right now and he shouldnt be dropped, someone should try and unseat him.

When webb plays well, leeds play well

Big test next week

I thought him and Hardaker were poor in attack for most of the game. Webb did get involved a lot but some of his decsion making and execution was poor.

Thought McGuire, Pitts and Delaney had great games.

not at all

we should start the game with a hooker like every game so far (and tonight) we look better when burrow at 7 and sinfield at 13 smith should be at fullback next week

Pitts reminds me of the early Carl Ablett, just quietly and efficiently gets on with his job. JJB's enforced layoff could be the break Pitts needed

Smith is finished.

I agree we should start with a hooker, although starting with burrow and bring mcshane on and then letting the two mix up who was going into dummy half also worked well.

I have to disagree about smith. he was crap last year leading to being dropped, apparently got his act together in preseason, First two rounds didnt sieze his opportunity and got injured in no small part because of one of his half-ar*ed kick returns.

BJB siezed the opportunity that arose so Smith wont get alook in on the wing.

I stand by my statement that Webb is the best option right now andis part of everything leeds do good.

Smith has to fight his way in and should not get the fullback spot on a knee jerk at a few Webb mistakes or the fact that Webb is older for that matter

Webby is still a huge player for us and i agree when he plays well, we generally play well.

Smith doesnt deserve to be our number one, his biggest achievement in the last 18 months was kicking 11/11 in burrows testimonial, i love smith not many players can play in three consectutive gf's, in three different postions, and score in them too, but since his return from union he is very laboured, and doesnt seem to have the bit between the teeth! It is documented he has really knuckled down in pre-season which is fair play to him, but he is a squad player now, if he wants to be starting week in week out he will have to move clubs imo

I don't think Webb should of got M.O.M imo it should of gone to Delaney or Ablett but saying that whilst i agree his distribution was off i'm not at the point where i think we should ditch him.
As for Smithy he'll get another chance at some point and at 24/5 i doubt very much that he is finished at Leeds.

Dnt think webb played a bad game tbh but if anyone deserved mo
I thought it should have been pitts the kid was everywhere andhad a real good game

I agree McGuire (again at Cas) looked far sharper and threatening tonight. Pitts is our new JJB...worked like a trooper. Glad he's got his chance.

Webb might not have been mom ....but he did play pretty well tonight IMO. Hardaker had a bit of a 'mare...but at least he seems to have learned to pass to his winger. I still have every faith in the lad though. He will come good.

Smith has no chance of gaining a place at the moment. Webb [uand[/u BJB both offer far more at the moment.

spot on, Zack just needs to work on the speed of his passing, because he dosent have the offload game of watkins his descion and pass has to be executed in a split second. He cant do that at the minute but it will come with time,

Is this thread a joke or true?

Webb was shocking with the passes. McGuire was so much better than anyone else on field.

And surely Pitts has taken Clarksons place after last night.

I think the title of the thread is stating a fact not an opinion. Webb did get MoM on Sky.

McGuire was better though I would say Webb wasn't that bad...he had one of his better games in defence and despite bombing a few half-chances was involved in a lot of our trys.

Pitts had a great game. What a lot of competition we have for places this year. As another example BJB seems to have re-found his form and will be difficult for smith to displace.

Personally I think Webb was good going forward. I though down the left they were all pretty decent passes which Hardaker overran and in one instance went for a pass that was intended for hall. I thought Hardaker had a bit of a mare last night but he's a young lad finding his feet and will make mistakes but will be worth it long term

Just seeing the game on tv I would have to disagree with pretty much everyone. Webb made a huge contribution, he got through a tremendous amount of work, ran the ball out hard and cleared our lines repeatedly. He also pulled off a try saving tackle in the second half that I doubt many other full backs would have the strength to do.
His passing was mixed, but the Hall try ruled out was not because of his pass, Hardakers was forward. In the second half the interception try was because Hardaker overran the play and we had nobody covering (which is usually done for those types of attacks). You also have to give a lot of credit to excellent Cas defence, they read our attacks really well and worked tremendously hard.
Webb did bomb one score but the guy was involved in so much good stuff I really don't know what you want?

At the game DHM it appeared Webb was as much to blame as Hardaker for the bombed tries/missed opportunities so without watching the t.v that was what i based my opinion on and like i posted i thought Delaney or Abbo should of got it however i'm not gonna lose sleep over it nor do i think he's finished.

Didn't think Webb was that bad last night, him and Hardaker seemed to have some timing issues down the left hand side and I thought at times Webb held on to the ball a touch too long.
All in all I couldn't really pick a man of the match, it was a real team effort and you could see the players, even when Cas made a comeback, had real confidence in their game. They stuck to their guns and got the result.

Where will he be playing next year is the question ... Be tough with Ellis, JJB, Ablett, Delaney, Hauraki, Clarkson, Pitts..

You're fully convinced about Ellis aren't you A?

I also thought Ablett was mom.
You have also to give credit to some excellent Cas defence for the chances we didn't convert. They put our attacking line under a lot of pressure.

Fair point mate they got stuck in and kept their shape for a lot of the game.

Brent Webb was awful last night and the decision to hand him M.O.M i bet even he was ashamed of.