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| Can we put this idea to bed now.
Two of the best wingers trys you could wish to see, made even better by the fact he was playing on the opposite wing to usual. Reed couldn't have done any better for the second either, superb centre play after Tomkins did his stuff.
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| Quote ="Andy R"Can we put this idea to bed now.
Two of the best wingers trys you could wish to see, made even better by the fact he was playing on the opposite wing to usual. Reed couldn't have done any better for the second either, superb centre play after Tomkins did his stuff.'"
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"tries
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No, you misunderstand! I meant he tried really hard twice
Worryingly, as a teacher, I thought about it as I typed it too! My only excuse is it's Saturday!
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| His performance on the RIGHT wing begs the question which [iis[/i [ihis[/i best position ?
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| Ryan Hall is a superb finisher. He has the strength of a second rower with the pace. Given more time who knows he could become a great centre and be the next Mal Maninga, he too was just like a tank with pace.
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| He's a winger. The best in the world on that showing today. Maybe the Aussies should have watched some video of him, he just doesn't slow down when he goes for the line, he just blasts over. I remember the first game Grothe played for Leeds, the thing that hit me about him was that he was so direct, I'd never seen a guy who just pinned his ears back and defied anyone to stop him getting over like that. Hall has that, his try in the GF, the two today, all world class finishes. Slater hits like a tank and Hall hardly felt it, Grothe would have approved I think.
If I was an NRL coach I would be trying to find out when he was out of contract.
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| Quote ="DHM"He's a winger. The best in the world on that showing today. Maybe the Aussies should have watched some video of him, he just doesn't slow down when he goes for the line, he just blasts over. I remember the first game Grothe played for Leeds, the thing that hit me about him was that he was so direct, I'd never seen a guy who just pinned his ears back and defied anyone to stop him getting over like that. Hall has that, his try in the GF, the two today, all world class finishes. Slater hits like a tank and Hall hardly felt it, Grothe would have approved I think.
If I was an NRL coach I would be trying to find out when he was out of contract.'"
Have to say I cannot disagree....I too remember Grothe. Hall's finishing abilities are second to nobody and I concede he must stay on the wing. The only question now is WHICH wing ??
Said elsewhere Hall and Sam Tomkins are the only ones that could displace anybody from the first Aussie 17 on today's performance. We should be very very worried about our greatest talents staying in the SL.
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| if he was to go to Aus DHM he would be missed but i am sure he would go with our blessing
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| Quote ="DHM"He's a winger. The best in the world on that showing today. Maybe the Aussies should have watched some video of him, he just doesn't slow down when he goes for the line, he just blasts over. I remember the first game Grothe played for Leeds, the thing that hit me about him was that he was so direct, I'd never seen a guy who just pinned his ears back and defied anyone to stop him getting over like that. Hall has that, his try in the GF, the two today, all world class finishes. Slater hits like a tank and Hall hardly felt it, Grothe would have approved I think.
If I was an NRL coach I would be trying to find out when he was out of contract.'"
I'm too young to have seen Grothe but for me Hall is the best finisher I've ever seen - the combination of strength and agility frankly makes the boy a bit of a freak.
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| How many tries did Milkfloat score again? Now HE was a finisher.
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| The bet finisher in the game. If he had been in Briscoe's place there would never have been any debate about whether it was double movement, he would have finished it off first time.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Have to say I cannot disagree....I too remember Grothe. Hall's finishing abilities are second to nobody and I concede he must stay on the wing. The only question now is WHICH wing ??
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| Keith Switcorn doesn't think Hall is international class. That's settled I think.
Gotcha think's Briscoe is a better winger than Hall. That's settled I think.
Those finishes weren't just international class, they were world class.
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| Cannot understand how before the tournament started, some fans were doubting Hall's credentials as an England winger. By far the best we've got. Him and Reed are forming a nice partnership as well.
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| Quote ="tigertot"The bet finisher in the game. If he had been in Briscoe's place there would never have been any debate about whether it was double movement, he would have finished it off first time.'"
Spot on this. Terrible judgment from Briscoe not to go for the corner. I haven't watched the game again but at the time I thought he would have strolled in.
Hall and Reed played like an established pairing. Briscoe and Yeaman in comparison looked like relative strangers.
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| Whilst i agree Briscoe should of gone straight for the corner and for me Hall is the better winger but TB still scored a legitamate try and was robbed!!
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Whilst i agree Briscoe should of gone straight for the corner and for me Hall is the better winger but TB still scored a legitamate try and was robbed!!'"
Not disputing that he was robbed, and fwiw I think Briscoe is probably the second best English winger (after Hall), but he certainly proved that the consequences of taking the wrong option can be pretty disastrous.
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| Quote ="Teddy Picker"Cannot understand how before the tournament started, some fans were doubting Hall's credentials as an England winger. '"
I can easily answer that for you: because he had not performed as one previously.
However, yesterday Hall was outstanding. He needs to perform like that at that level consistently now because he should be a shoo-in for the England team on the right wing. He was terrific and while he finished both his tries off beautifully, that first one was breathtaking.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I can easily answer that for you: because he had not performed as one previously.
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You gave an answer but not the right one. Hall puts displays and finishes like Saturdays in week after week after week for Leeds.
I said it a couple of months back on here, I said it a season or two back, Hall is the best winger in Super League and is now lookiing like the best in the 4 nations.
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| Quote ="G1"You gave an answer but not the right one. Hall puts displays and finishes like Saturdays in week after week after week for Leeds.
I said it a couple of months back on here, I said it a season or two back, Hall is the best winger in Super League and is now lookiing like the best in the 4 nations.'"
Anybody would think you were quite smug about it
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| Quote ="G1"You gave an answer but not the right one. Hall puts displays and finishes like Saturdays in week after week after week for Leeds.'"
Sinfield carried you through the 2011 season playing in the halves, I believe, but he still isn't an international halfback and never will be. Some players are great club players but never show up the same at international level. Hall has never shown up at international level before. He certainly did so yesterday. Long may that continue.
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| Ryan Hall so tough he had a full tilt Slater break his own collar bone on his granite like body and still scored.
My England MotM, great wing play and two WORLD class finishes, if that had been an Aussie there woud be a 10 page thread on how good he was and how we can't compete with Aussie backs.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Sinfield carried you through the 2011 season playing in the halves'" Oh I don't know. Rob Burrow didn't do so bad in the Grand Final.
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| Quote ="Norman Stanley Fletcher"Oh I don't know. Rob Burrow didn't do so bad in the Grand Final.
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You won't get a rise out of me by that comment. Sinfield carried Leeds when they were playing utter crap, which they did for most of the season in 2011. But that doesn't make him an international 6. Nothing will ever make him an international 6. Not even a good coach.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"You won't get a rise out of me by that comment. Sinfield carried Leeds when they were playing utter crap, which they did for most of the season in 2011. But that doesn't make him an international 6. Nothing will ever make him an international 6. Not even a good coach.'" I wasn't expecting a rise. Just a friendly bit of banter pal.
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