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Player: Metres - Carries (MT/Carry) - Tackles - Misses (Efficiency %) - Errors - Penalties
Leeds: 1387 - 222 (6.25) - 264 - 18 (94%) - 17 - 12
Bradford: 1322 - 203 (6.51) - 310 - 22 (93%) - 20 - 12
Webb: 82 - 21 (3.90) - 6 - 1 (86%) - 3 - 0
Jones-Bishop: 76 - 13 (5.85) - 5 - 1 (83%) - 1 - 1
Delaney: 77 - 9 (8.56) - 37 - 1 (97%) - 0 - 1
Senior: 53 - 12 (4.42) - 19 - 1 (95%) - 2 - 1
Hall: 122 - 14 (8.71) - 2 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 0
Sinfield: 108 - 28 (3.86) - 16 - 3 (84%) - 4 - 1
Burrow: 145 - 20 (7.25) - 6 - 3 (67%) - 0 - 0
Leuluai: 111 - 16 (6.94) - 10 - 2 (83%) - 1 - 1
Buderus: 146 - 19 (7.68 ) - 28 - 1 (97%) - 1 - 1
Cross: 59 - 9 (6.56) - 31 - 0 (100%) - 1 - 1
Jones-Buchanan: 91 - 11 (8.27) - 17 - 1 (94%) - 0 - 0
Lauitiiti: 95 - 10 (9.50) - 19 - 1 (95%) - 1 - 1
Ablett: 58 - 11 (5.27) - 17 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 2
Watkins: 27 - 8 (3.38 ) - 12 - 1 (92%) - 2 - 0
Pitt: 23 - 5 (4.60) - 12 - 1 (92%) - 1 - 0
Kirke: 18 - 4 (4.50) - 11 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 0
Burgess: 96 - 12 (8.00) - 16 - 1 (94%) - 0 - 2
Try Assists:
Brent Webb X 2 (Jones-Bishop Try, Leuluai Try)
Keith Senior (Ryan Hall Try)
Kallum Watkins (Jones-Bishop Try)
Jones-Bishop (Jones-Bishop Try)
The Burrow try did not attract an assist from Opta.
As it's only week 1, if anyone wants to check out the Bradford Bulls contributions they can do so here: www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011
(As ever the team missed tackle stat on the site is a nonsence. The 22 accrued by Bradford is collected individually with Kearney, Briggs and Whitehead topping the list on 4 apiece.) |
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Player: Metres - Carries (MT/Carry) - Tackles - Misses (Efficiency %) - Errors - Penalties
Leeds: 1387 - 222 (6.25) - 264 - 18 (94%) - 17 - 12
Bradford: 1322 - 203 (6.51) - 310 - 22 (93%) - 20 - 12
Webb: 82 - 21 (3.90) - 6 - 1 (86%) - 3 - 0
Jones-Bishop: 76 - 13 (5.85) - 5 - 1 (83%) - 1 - 1
Delaney: 77 - 9 (8.56) - 37 - 1 (97%) - 0 - 1
Senior: 53 - 12 (4.42) - 19 - 1 (95%) - 2 - 1
Hall: 122 - 14 (8.71) - 2 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 0
Sinfield: 108 - 28 (3.86) - 16 - 3 (84%) - 4 - 1
Burrow: 145 - 20 (7.25) - 6 - 3 (67%) - 0 - 0
Leuluai: 111 - 16 (6.94) - 10 - 2 (83%) - 1 - 1
Buderus: 146 - 19 (7.68 ) - 28 - 1 (97%) - 1 - 1
Cross: 59 - 9 (6.56) - 31 - 0 (100%) - 1 - 1
Jones-Buchanan: 91 - 11 (8.27) - 17 - 1 (94%) - 0 - 0
Lauitiiti: 95 - 10 (9.50) - 19 - 1 (95%) - 1 - 1
Ablett: 58 - 11 (5.27) - 17 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 2
Watkins: 27 - 8 (3.38 ) - 12 - 1 (92%) - 2 - 0
Pitt: 23 - 5 (4.60) - 12 - 1 (92%) - 1 - 0
Kirke: 18 - 4 (4.50) - 11 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 0
Burgess: 96 - 12 (8.00) - 16 - 1 (94%) - 0 - 2
Try Assists:
Brent Webb X 2 (Jones-Bishop Try, Leuluai Try)
Keith Senior (Ryan Hall Try)
Kallum Watkins (Jones-Bishop Try)
Jones-Bishop (Jones-Bishop Try)
The Burrow try did not attract an assist from Opta.
As it's only week 1, if anyone wants to check out the Bradford Bulls contributions they can do so here: www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011
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Delaney 37 tackles, 1 missed?! 97% Success with the nearest tackler being Buderus with 28 tackles.
Interesting statistic wouldn't you say?!
Edit - Just spotted Cross at 31 tackles! (Thanks AG). Still... Delaney impressive at 37 with 1 missed!
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That tackle stat for Cross is exceptional given his minutes on the field. More tackles than Buderus, who played the full eighty.
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Good work from Delaney and Lauitiiti on the metres made.
Who is Pitt?
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The younger?
Looking at it again it's all a bit rushed. Christian names here but not there. I'll try harder next week.
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The chase Ben Cross put on Brett Kearney, crunching him into the foot of the post when he got there was outstanding. Should have been rewarded from a Leeds point of view with a goal line drop-out (from a Bradford point of view a possible penalty as it looked a bit kneeish) but the officials thought otherwise.
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Shocked at Delaney!
Most tackles and 2nd in Metres per carry?! (From a "Forward" 3rd if you count Hall).
Get that boy in the pack!!
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BTW...
Forgive my ignorance but what exactly constitutes as a Metre or a Carry?!
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"BTW...
Forgive my ignorance but what exactly constitutes as a Metre or a Carry?!'"
A 'metre' is decimal unit of measurement used as part of a preferred system of decimal systems adopted in the UK in 1971, with some areas of legal exception such as highways distances and speeds. A single metre is the equivalent of 100cm or 1000mm. 
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| ahhh, thanks TVOC, this thread sets our forum waaaay ahead of the rest And I agree, outstanding contribution from Delaney! I can see him and Huaraki becoming a very affective second row partnership! |
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Good go forward from Burgess.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"BTW...
Forgive my ignorance but what exactly constitutes as a Metre or a Carry?!'"
Time for the annual disclaimer -
In the absence of an explanation from Opta - if only we had access to a weekly magazine programme devoted to the sport with an hour a week to fill.
The whole point of the thread was (and I guess still is) for people to question for themselves what goes in to the very stats that they tend to turn to if they happen to support their point of view.
It appears this week, for example, that Jones-Bishop didn't do much running with ball in hand that didn't end with four points being added to the scoreline. Next time he should keep the ball in hand instead of kicking it like that. |
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"A 'metre' is decimal unit of measurement used as part of a preferred system of decimal systems adopted in the UK in 1971, with some areas of legal exception such as highways distances and speeds. A single metre is the equivalent of 100cm or 1000mm.
No idea about the Carry bit though!'"
Ah that answers that then. Thanks. Has a 'metre' got anything to do with a 'kilometre' then? Is that like a 'life-threateningly dangerous metre'??
Now that I've learnt what a 'metre' is, would anybody care to explain how the total number of this new fangled decimal unit of measurement is calculated in relation to each of the particular players it's attributed to? |
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| Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"ahhh, thanks TVOC, this thread sets our forum waaaay ahead of the rest
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No worries, I heard your plea on the other thread and my heart (what's left of it) melted. So it's back. |
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| Quote ="tvoc"Time for the annual disclaimer -
In the absence of an explanation from Opta - if only we had access to a weekly magazine programme devoted to the sport with an hour a week to fill.
The whole point of the thread was (and I guess still is) for people to question for themselves what goes in to the very stats that they tend to turn to if they happen to support their point of view.
It appears this week, for example, that Jones-Bishop didn't do much running with ball in hand that didn't end with four points being added to the scoreline. Next time he should keep the ball in hand instead of kicking it like that.'"
Am I to translate that as.... "I don't know"??
I'd assume that a "metre" is the number of metres you run with the ball in your hand? and a "Carry" is the number of times you run with the ball in your hand!? Would that be right?! I'm sure I'm being thick but with the highest being sub 150 that would suggest that a length of the field effort would instantly put you towards the top of the "metre" list?! |
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"Ah that answers that then. Thanks. Has a 'metre' got anything to do with a 'kilometre' then? Is that like a 'life-threateningly dangerous metre'??
Now that I've learnt what a 'metre' is, would anybody care to explain how the total number of this new fangled decimal unit of measurement is calculated in relation to each of the particular players it's attributed to?'"
I assume it's meters made with ball in hand, however if that were always the case the wingers and fullbacks stats would surely be far larger from kick returns? or are they not counted? |
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"Am I to translate that as.... "I don't know"??
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Correct.
I may have an idea but it's not one I'm prepared to share with the likes of you. It wouldn't surprise me if there are more questions than answers.
Given the propensity for one of our 'props' being driven back in the tackle I'm surprised he's still in positive territory. |
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"Am I to translate that as.... "I don't know"??
I'd assume that a "metre" is the number of metres you run with the ball in your hand? and a "Carry" is the number of times you run with the ball in your hand!? Would that be right?! I'm sure I'm being thick but with the highest being sub 150 that would suggest that a length of the field effort would instantly put you towards the top of the "metre" list?!'"
Sorry mate, I just could no resist!
I actual think it is metres made in a forward direction towards the opposition line on the pitch while carrying the ball, so metres gained, not metres run, there is a difference. American Football style is probably the best way to describe it. It must therefore be technical possible (however unlikely) to have a negative metres gained number, if every time you got the ball you were pushed back beyond the point where you first received it... now that is a question to make your brain hurt! |
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I may have an idea but it's not one I'm prepared to share =#FF4000with the likes of you. It wouldn't surprise me if there are more questions than answers.
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Charming! Thanks.
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Sorry mate, I just could no resist!
I actual think it is metres made in a forward direction towards the opposition line on the pitch while carrying the ball, so metres gained, not metres run, there is a difference. American Football style is probably the best way to describe it. It must therefore be technical possible (however unlikely) to have a negative metres gained number, if every time you got the ball you were pushed back beyond the point where you first received it... now that is a question to make your brain hurt!'"
It's all pretty much bo[ill[/iocks anyway if you think about it. You could win an award for "Top Tackler" but doesn't that just mean your team has had more time defending?!
Technically, the most impressive stat would be if the whole team had made 0 tackles. (i.e. a 100-0 score line with the opponents only ever kicking off!) |
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"It's all pretty much bo[ill[/iocks anyway if you think about it. '"
You've soon changed your tune.
It only seems like yesterday (or the day before) when the number ot try assists credited to Lee Smith in 2008 was proof positive of his averageness.
(I'm sure you realise that I'm not an emoticom kind of guy anymore but if I were I'd be winking at you right now.) |
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So Ben Jones-Bishop got a try assist for assisting himself? Is that right? Really?
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| Quote ="Harrigan"So Ben Jones-Bishop got a try assist for assisting himself? Is that right? Really?'"
He put an attacking kick in for someone to score. Had somebody else touched down it would have been an assist. The fact that he touched down (or not quite in this case), does it really make it any different?
It's not like running all the way with the ball in hand, or even doing a chip and catch of the ball. Like others, I agree it sounds daft, but technically speaking it is absolutely correct. |
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| Quote ="tvoc"You've soon changed your tune.
It only seems like yesterday (or the day before) when the number ot try assists credited to Lee Smith in 2008 was proof positive of his averageness.
(I'm sure you realise that I'm not an emoticom kind of guy anymore but if I were I'd be winking at you right now.)'"
Can we keep the Lee Smith stuff to just one thread?! I'm getting sick of re-typing it in different places.
In this particular instance, I'm just saying that stats are interpretable. I'm pretty sure you, of all people, don't need telling that. The "tackle" stat in particular. Malcolm Alker gets a lot of praise from the Sky boys about being constantly in the top tacklers lists, but I'd suggest that it isn't really worthy of praise given the amount of defending Salford are expected to do.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"Malcolm Alker gets a lot of praise from the Sky boys about being constantly in the top tacklers lists, but I'd suggest that it isn't really worthy of praise given the amount of defending Salford are expected to do.'"
I think it's still worthy of praise, in context, given he usually couples quantity with quality. Both the top tacklers in 2010 (Dallas Johnson and Alker) recorded 97% in tackle effectivenes (misses/(tackles+misses)) Sky will have to find someone else to talk about in 2011.
Looking down the top tacklers from 2010:
Dallas Johnson - 97%
Malcolm Alker - 97%
Heath L'Estrange - 92%
Luke Swain - 95%
Danny Houghton - 97%
Lincoln Withers - 94%
From a Leeds' forward perspective in 2010:
The range was from
Sinfield, Pitts - 96%
Bailey, Burgess, Clarkson, Peacock - 95%
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"Shocked at Delaney!
Get that boy in the pack!!'"
Yup. I know. |
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