Nasty for Burgess tonight .

However when Carl Ablett took out Sam Tomkins with his illegal challenge you Leeds fans were chanting " Yorkshire , Yorkshire , Yorkshire", boot on the other foot now , however tonight's was an accident , still not nice though is it, maybe something to think about for you.

I guess your moan was too late to get in to the League Express that week ....

So, if you're doing the holier-than-thou bit, perhaps you might want to remind us what happend when Chev Walker was carried off at Headingley, compared to say Ryan Bailey being carried off at Craven Park early last season ?

Chev ex Leeds - Bailey - thug.

Your a dirty team , my point been i wish Burgess a speedy recovery, it just shows what goes around comes around, you lot chanting when Tomkins was taken out was pathetic , Karma and all that ........

You tool!

PS Wheels may be in contact about your misuse of 'been'.

I don't think the challenge on Burgess was bad, just unlucky. The challenge from Ablett on Tomkins was bad but accidental. I think this is the view of a lot of Leeds supporters, so whats your point?

His point is the fact Leeds fans cheered & chanted when Tomkins was injured and when St Helens players get injured its fine, but tonight there's a lot of Leeds fans complaining Cas fans chanted "there's only one Johnny Walker" it's an utter disgrace etc etc, he's pointing out the irony in that fact

I would cheer if Bailey got injured, I'd cheer more if COCKayne got injured. Thats because they are idiots. However Burgess seems a decent lad.

Can I contact him or her about their use of your/ you're?

Red,

I'll be honest I havent read the rest of the threads and don't know what has already been said but the Ablett incident was a bit different. At the time I thought that he should have walked but tonights was just plain unlucky between Burgess and Walker and it seems a bit unfair that you seem to be taking the chance to gloat.

I was one of the first to wish Chev all the best (not to mention the same to all players) and would like to have hoped that you could have done the same. I feel for the lad cause now he will miss his deserved chance at Wembley but I hope he will get another.

As a Wigan fan I didn't have an issue with the Rhino's fans singing after Tomkins was flattened by Ablett and can't really see any irony in the same fans complaining about the chants and shouts from Cas 'fans' after Burgess was flattened. The reason there's no irony is that Tomkins wasn't lying pretty much motionless on the floor requiring a neckbrace and stretcher whereas Burgess was and it was pretty obvious that it looked like a bad injury yet certain fans continued to chant and shout. Its bad enough that there are some people who behave like this but as far as I'm concerned its worse that people see nothing wrong with it, come up with ridiculous arguments in defence of this kind of behaviour or deny anything happened. I really couldn't give a rats ass if Castleford lose their licence after this, its rugby league not football and I found it sickening. As for the challenge itself it was unfortunate there was a clash of heads but I'm not convinced there's a great deal of skill involved in running at someone at full speed and there's probably not a huge difference between a shoulder and an elbow in terms of the damage they can do with momentum behind them but its within the rules.

The only irony I can see in this in relation to the incident with Ablett and Tomkins, is that 'Bluey' seems to be the only person claiming this was a foul and was also the only person claiming Ablett's wasn't. I think he's a bit muddled with rules.

What an excellent response to the muppet who started this thread, well said sir.


What I think may be useful is a definitive list of those SL players for whom it is acceptable to cheer when injured, or dead - just to make things absolutely crystal clear of course.

You start this thread with a post a little OTT but perhaps a valid point and then follow it up with this which makes you look a complete h0le.

You just lost any credibility you might have otherwise had.

Just out of interest, if Bailey's a thug how would you describe Ben Cockayne?

I'm not sure Bluey was saying last nights was a foul - more a dangerous tackle, which in many respects it was and I've posted my views about this on another thread.
Neither did I here him say Ablett's wasn't, I think he might have agreed with your own coach for the night who said it was clumsy and little more than that.
Neither were good, both could have/did cause serious injury yet I'm certain there was no intent in either of the 2 tackles

Bluey's Leeds are getting a reputation now for playing too much Thugby, its only a matter of time before every team in superleague will react to it.

And yet the disciplinary records do not show this.

I've had the same thing said to me about Leeds on several occasions and the answer is always the same - show me the evidence of this - and the fact is that Leeds do not have more players in front of the disciplinary committee than any other club in SL, which you would surely expect if they are a team of thugs ?

Could it be that your, and others, opinions are wrong ?

Complete bollox and we are far from having a Hooper or a Matautia or Nickle

Here comes another idiot - they're coming thick and fast at the moment. Can't you press your special button Mr Field?

No. Much simpler to just ask them to back up their dip opinions with facts - they go away then.

You're doing him a disservice offering this a sensible and well thought out response.

We gave the lad a standing ovation didn't we? Whilst also sticking up for our young lad whose tackle was perfectly legal (Abletts wasnt!).

Hope Burgess and Peacock are ok are can take part at Wembley.

Thats why Leeds are next to the bottom of the fair plays index. Also the difference with Hooper/Matautia and Nickle is that they got dealt with by the disciplinary, where as the likes of Webb, Senior and Bailey get away with it.
If you also bother to look at the RL's disciplinary index, you will find Leeds are serial offenders and have the worst record than any club in all the 3 competions.
Like as said before Bluey's is condoning "Thugby" and pushing the boundaries of sportmanship, its only a matter of time before opposition players react to it and fans glorify it..........Mintball.

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Click the link, put two dates in the boxes (I did 01/01/10 to 13/08/10) put Superleague in the "league" box and see what comes up.

Then come back and try and justify the statement that I've highlighted in bold.

No way was the Ablett "challenge" accidental, he knew what he was doing .

Nail on head mate.

Why are you filtering on selective dates, just use the Leeds comparative. If you look at ALL the clubs, there disciplinary in most cases heavily weighted when the oppostion is Leeds. So there is a common dominator here that Leeds come up with the Thugby game.

This obviously endorsed by the Leeds position in the fair play index...........which you have nicely managed not to respond too, and this being a Leeds Message Board will never accept comment and criticism.......on the similar mind set of "I hope other clubs have injuries" Bluey.