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| Difficult game, going for Huddersfield 10-24 Leeds
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| Should be a great game - hopefully Silverwood will keep a low profile and let the game flow
Leeds will have to be on their best form if they are to get anything out of this game
Looking forward to it
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"Should be a great game - hopefully Silverwood will keep a low profile and let the game flow
Leeds will have to be on their best form if they are to get anything out of this game
Looking forward to it'"
The only way this game will flow is if Leeds are well on truly bossing it. Huddersfield will be messing about in the ruck all afternoon. Silverwood has 2 options - Ignore it e.g WCC or go for a record penalty count.
It will all be won and lost in the forwards and the way the Rhinos forwards my money is definately on a Leeds rout. Kylie, Peacock, Eastwood and Burgess all on form will be too much for Giants.
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| Should be an absolute cracker, sHudds are in fine fettle and Leeds looked chockfull of renewed confidence. I think this could be THE game of the season so far.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"The only way this game will flow is if Leeds are well on truly bossing it. Huddersfield will be messing about in the ruck all afternoon. Silverwood has 2 options - Ignore it e.g WCC or go for a record penalty count.'" And Leeds don't do that do they lol
Quote ="RhinoNeil"It will all be won and lost in the forwards and the way the Rhinos forwards my money is definately on a Leeds rout. Kylie, Peacock, Eastwood and Burgess all on form will be too much for Giants. '"
Is that just after the Quins game cos i've seen the Rhinos against Crusaders, Wakey and Melbourne so far this season and seen nothing from them to trouble us.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"The only way this game will flow is if Leeds are well on truly bossing it. Huddersfield will be messing about in the ruck all afternoon. Silverwood has 2 options - Ignore it e.g WCC or go for a record penalty count.'"
After the Melbourne game, McClennan vowed in the media that we would not be bossed at the ruck again.
On that basis, I would suspect if Huddersfield decide to go down those tactics they might be putting a nail in their own coffin.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"After the Melbourne game, McClennan vowed in the media that we would not be bossed at the ruck again.
On that basis, I would suspect if Huddersfield decide to go down those tactics they might be putting a nail in their own coffin.'"
He did Indeed. But who says Huddersfield cannot slow Leeds down? Just because Leeds are determined not to be slowed down again doesnt mean they will be successful - esp against a side like Hudds who are good at it. Hudds are big boys there not going to change their game plan just because big bad bluey said it wont work again.
If Huddersfield try and match Leeds for pace - a bit like the old St Helens then they have no chance. Leeds have pacey strong forwards which will just blow them away.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"He did Indeed. But who says Huddersfield cannot slow Leeds down? Just because Leeds are determined not to be slowed down again doesnt mean they will be successful - esp against a side like Hudds who are good at it. Hudds are big boys there not going to change their game plan just because big bad bluey said it wont work again.
If Huddersfield try and match Leeds for pace - a bit like the old St Helens then they have no chance. Leeds have pacey strong forwards which will just blow them away.'"
You can get round these things, and McClennan was confident when he said that. I will be suprised if Huddersfield manage to effect the game in their favour by slowing down the play the ball.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"You can get round these things, and McClennan was confident when he said that. I will be suprised if Huddersfield manage to effect the game in their favour by slowing down the play the ball.'"
Agree and with how Kylie and Burgess were running onto that ball Leeds seem pretty determined for a quick game. Huddersfield forwards will have to be very very good to slow Leeds down, but they will still try.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"Agree and with how Kylie and Burgess were running onto that ball Leeds seem pretty determined for a quick game. Huddersfield forwards will have to be very very good to slow Leeds down, but they will still try.'"
I think we'll have to be the same mate they have a good pack also!
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| Quote ="PONNER"And Leeds don't do that do they lol
Is that just after the Quins game cos i've seen the Rhinos against Crusaders, Wakey and Melbourne so far this season and seen nothing from them to trouble us.'"
I think you have to acknowledge that the Giants tactics last year were based around winning and trying to dominate the ruck by the wrestle but not hold down as such, although you run a greater risk of getting pinged for it. All teams hold down as much as the ref allows them to, that is called playing the game to the ref and whistle, nothing wrong with that. The point being made is more about how Silverwood is going to treat this, given that IMO (and many other peoples) that the Giants tactics were similar last season (not seen you play on Sky yet this season) to how Melbourne played last week.
I think as a supporter you must be worried that Silverwood could go on the offensive in respect of the criticism being levelled at him for the WCC and you run the risk of getting pinged lots, if you stick with those tactics? Alternatively, Silverwood could go the other way and let both sides (as Bluey said, he will coach his players to dominate the ruck as much as the ref will allow if he thinks that is the way the ref is allowing the game to go) slow things down.
I think the assessments of a slow game versus a possible big penalty count (possibly even both ways) is a distinct possibility.
In respect of your statement above about being troubled, I think you are kidding yourself about the Melbourne game, that was a tough and tight game and was the seasons best performance by any SL side this season so far, even in defeat. I am sure Nathan Brown knows that as well!
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| I'm not so sure about that mate, the Rhinos fans I work with thought they lacked attacking ideas. McGuires try was an opportunist try. Watkins came close twice but other than that I can't remember them causing Melbourne any trouble. I didn't see the Quins game but can that be used as a yard stick to say you've turned the corner?
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| Quote ="PONNER"And Leeds don't do that do they lol
Is that just after the Quins game cos i've seen the Rhinos against Crusaders, Wakey and Melbourne so far this season and seen nothing from them to trouble us.'"
So you think now that you've watched Leeds against Crusaders and Wakey Leeds are not going trouble you this season? Do you really think the real Leeds Rhinos side in form played against Wakey and Crusaders?
Against Melbourne Leeds were immense. We only just lost by 8 points and kept Melbourne out on our own line time and time again.
Jeez think that at your own peril buddy, your going to get a huge fooking slap across the face on Sunday!
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| Whens this game then? In 6 weeks on Friday?
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| Are you saying immense just because it was Melbourne that you ran close? A team that hadn't played a full competative game this season. I din't say you wouldn't trouble us this season. I'm sure you will when you start hitting the straps. I just don't think you're there yet from the Leeds games i've seen this season. The Rhinos of last year would have beaten Melbourne the other week imo.
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| Quote ="PONNER"I'm not so sure about that mate, the Rhinos fans I work with thought they lacked attacking ideas. McGuires try was an opportunist try. Watkins came close twice but other than that I can't remember them causing Melbourne any trouble. I didn't see the Quins game but can that be used as a yard stick to say you've turned the corner?'"
To be fair to Leeds we did get over the Melbourne try line 3 times, we just didn't finish the chances.
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| Quote ="PONNER"The Rhinos of last year would have beaten Melbourne the other week imo.'"
The team that lost to Quinn's & Salford at home?
It's all about form.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"The team that lost to Quinn's & Salford at home?
It's all about form.'" I know that, but when you were good last season you were very good. I'm just hoping your form hasn't improved from the storm game although 60 odd points against another SL team suggests it might be
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| Quote ="PONNER"Are you saying immense just because it was Melbourne that you ran close? A team that hadn't played a full competative game this season. I din't say you wouldn't trouble us this season. I'm sure you will when you start hitting the straps. I just don't think you're there yet from the Leeds games i've seen this season. The Rhinos of last year would have beaten Melbourne the other week imo.'"
As mentioned above we did get over the line 3 times, with Donald playing im sure he would have finished the chances unlike Watkins. Also add to that fact we lost Sinfield early on in the game. If you would have taken Cameron Smith out of their side the score could have been the other way around.
I know what your saying though mate, one great performance doesn't necessarily mean the week after we will be at our best again. But don't turn up on Sunday thinking Leeds will play like they did against Crusaders and Wakey, or you will have a shock.
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| Quote ="PONNER"I know that, but when you were good last season you were very good. I'm just hoping your form hasn't improved from the storm game although 60 odd points against another SL team suggests it might be
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I would hope to repeat that Storm form, because you and any other super league club would not get close if they did.
Anything like our Wakefield and Salford form, then you can start to wet your pants. But I took more out of that Melbourne game than I did against Quins, regardless of result and score.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"As mentioned above we did get over the line 3 times, with Donald playing im sure he would have finished the chances unlike Watkins. Also add to that fact we lost Sinfield early on in the game. If you would have taken Cameron Smith out of their side the score could have been the other way around.
I know what your saying though mate, one great performance doesn't necessarily mean the week after we will be at our best again. But don't turn up on Sunday thinking Leeds will play like they did against Crusaders and Wakey, or you will have a shock.'"
I'm not mate, i'm sure Leeds will lift their game against a team who could push them all the way this season. It's good to see that we can disagree on some things without resorting to insults like some you come across on forums. Here's hoping for a good hard game on Sunday and may the best team win and not come down to an error from the officials. Safe journey over.
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| P.S
Danny McGuire's try against Quins is the individual try of the season so far for me. He just reminds me of a young Garry Schofield.
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