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| Not even nominated AGAIN.
The license fee can do one for me.
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| We're you honestly expecting a mention. If we won the treble then fair enough but even Man Utd don't win the team award just for winning the league a few times.
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| Did you really expect anything different? Rugby League is about as far up the BBC's agenda as a snails undercarriage.
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| Quote ="Norman Stanley Fletcher"Not even nominated AGAIN.
The license fee can do one for me.'"
Yes I did. RL gets a token gesture every decade or so,scraps from the table if you will.It really does my head in thank you very much.
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| Quote ="Norman Stanley Fletcher"Yes I did. RL gets a token gesture every decade or so,scraps from the table if you will.It really does my head in thank you very much.'"
Wasn't St Helens the token gesture a few years back then?
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| Quote ="Mark_W"Wasn't St Helens the token gesture a few years back then?'"
Excactly that.Still pi$$es me right off though.
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| As long as the ‘Old School Tie’ brigade resides in the controlling positions at the Beeb then Rugby League will always be the poorer relation.
Doing away with the licence fee will in turn bring a commercially driven organisation which will require a dynamic change of management at Aunties house but whilst they have billions of unearned public pounds at their disposal they’ll continue with their ‘Jobs for the boys’ recruitment criteria.
I dislike the organisation with a passion and truly resent paying the Licence Fee.
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"As long as the ‘Old School Tie’ brigade resides in the controlling positions at the Beeb then Rugby League will always be the poorer relation.
Doing away with the licence fee will in turn bring a commercially driven organisation which will require a dynamic change of management at Aunties house but whilst they have billions of unearned public pounds at their disposal they’ll continue with their ‘Jobs for the boys’ recruitment criteria.
I dislike the organisation with a passion and truly resent paying the Licence Fee.'"
Total Agreement LS16. My old man worked for auntie for 25 years and you wouldn't believe the money they pour down the drain. Mind you,at a local level I can't fault them,on the radio at least.
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"As long as the ‘Old School Tie’ brigade resides in the controlling positions at the Beeb then Rugby League will always be the poorer relation.
Doing away with the licence fee will in turn bring a commercially driven organisation which will require a dynamic change of management at Aunties house but whilst they have billions of unearned public pounds at their disposal they’ll continue with their ‘Jobs for the boys’ recruitment criteria.
I dislike the organisation with a passion and truly resent paying the Licence Fee.'"
You sir are an utter & complete fool.
Do you really believe that ITV provides better broadcast fare than the BBC?
Do you really believe that ITV is free?
Are you prepared to pay Sky type subscriptions - in my case about £700 annually compared with £ 170 for the BBC?
The BBC is by no means perfect but it is better than most other providers across the globe that I've seen.
You clearly want a diet of crap reality shows & you probably deserve them.
Rant over.
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| BBC > ITV
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| Quote ="Old Feller"You sir are an utter & complete fool.
Do you really believe that ITV provides better broadcast fare than the BBC?
Do you really believe that ITV is free?
Are you prepared to pay Sky type subscriptions - in my case about £700 annually compared with £ 170 for the BBC?
The BBC is by no means perfect but it is better than most other providers across the globe that I've seen.
You clearly want a diet of crap reality shows & you probably deserve them.
Rant over.'"
The BBC is like the NHS, we should improve it not do away with it simply because its not perfect.
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| Quote ="Mark_W"BBC > ITV'"
SPOTY over X factor anyday
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| Quote ="Mark_W"SPOTY over X factor anyday'"
Watching Paint dry> scratching my eyeballs out> SPOTY> setting my hair on fire> Death> X factor
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| SPOTY live from the Leeds arena 2012 anyone???
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| Quote ="Old Feller"You sir are an utter & complete fool.
Do you really believe that ITV provides better broadcast fare than the BBC?
Do you really believe that ITV is free?
Are you prepared to pay Sky type subscriptions - in my case about £700 annually compared with £ 170 for the BBC?
The BBC is by no means perfect but it is better than most other providers across the globe that I've seen.
You clearly want a diet of crap reality shows & you probably deserve them.
Rant over.'"
My opinion doesn’t make me a fool my friend. I’m forced by legislation, to purchase a T.V. licence. I have no choice, there is on consumer decision, there is no informed choice. I HAVE to buy a licence!
This means that the Been have no commercial pressure to produce quality programming, only an obligation which the continue to fail with.
Let’s take the Chris Moyles show on Radio 1. There is a staff of 14 to produce that particular show – 14. I have a friend that hosts a breakfast show on a commercial radio station which, in my opinion produces a quality output – this show has a staff of three.
Why does it take 14 people to produce one 3.5 hour show? Simple answer, it doesn’t but because there are no commercial constraints imposed they can continually be frivolous with my cash.
Their sport output is bordering on nonexistent and the little coverage they give to RL is poor by comparison.
You my friend are harping back to an era where there were only two channels and the BBC was outputting, by comparison, quality programming. Those days are long gone and Auntie needs to move with the times but, like yourself, they’re stuck in the past with absolutely no pressure to bring them into the 21st century.
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| Expecting to be nominated for team of the year for winning the league . How many thousands of teams have won their respective leagues across the country and not been nominated?
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| Wasnt expecting a nomination for the Rhinos , but the decision to give the award to the England cricket Team was a joke
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| Quote ="stevos wig"Wasnt expecting a nomination for the Rhinos , but the decision to give the award to the England cricket Team was a joke'"
Cmon admit it, was you suprised?
I wont be suprised when they're in the New Years honours list either.
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| Quote ="stevos wig"Wasnt expecting a nomination for the Rhinos , but the decision to give the award to the England cricket Team was a joke'"
They won the Ashes, it was always going to happen.
The biggest joke of the night was Fabio Capello getting the Coach of the Year. He's managed to get an England team, which was much better than all the other teams in their group, to qualify for the World Cup. Whippy do.
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"My opinion doesn’t make me a fool my friend. I’m forced by legislation, to purchase a T.V. licence. I have no choice, there is on consumer decision, there is no informed choice. I HAVE to buy a licence!'"
You do have a choice. Admittedly that choice would leave you without a TV but still you do have a choice.
Quote ="LS16_Rhino"This means that the Been have no commercial pressure to produce quality programming, only an obligation which the continue to fail with.
Let’s take the Chris Moyles show on Radio 1. There is a staff of 14 to produce that particular show – 14. I have a friend that hosts a breakfast show on a commercial radio station which, in my opinion produces a quality output – this show has a staff of three.
Why does it take 14 people to produce one 3.5 hour show? Simple answer, it doesn’t but because there are no commercial constraints imposed they can continually be frivolous with my cash.'"
Is that staff of 14 purely for the Chris Moyles or do some of them do jobs for the shows before or after as well?
Quote ="LS16_Rhino"Their sport output is bordering on nonexistent and the little coverage they give to RL is poor by comparison.'"
The sport is covered fairly well on 5Live, and whilst their coverage to RL is very poor it is no different than any other media outlet.
Quote ="LS16_Rhino"You my friend are harping back to an era where there were only two channels and the BBC was outputting, by comparison, quality programming. Those days are long gone and Auntie needs to move with the times but, like yourself, they’re stuck in the past with absolutely no pressure to bring them into the 21st century.'"
What like the quality churned out by ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5 and Sky tonight?
ITV:
All star Family Fortunes
X Factor
I Dreamed a Dream - Susan Boyle
Channel 4:
Elf
The Worst Christmas Jobs in History
Come Dine with Me
Epic Movie
Channel 5:
Highland Emergency
Raid on Entebbe
Constantine
CCTV Cities
Sky One:
Simpsons
Futurama
Bones
Fringe
Some real quality there from the commercial channels. The best things are probably the re-runs of Simpsons.
If you seriously think that RL will get a higher priority on a commercial channel you're kidding yourself. We get p!ssed off at the lack of coverage by the BBC, well compare that to the total utter non-existent coverage on ITV, C4 and C5, and lets face it we only get some coverage on SKY because of the TV deal.
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I wont be suprised when they're in the New Years honours list either.'"
The biggest joke of the night was Fabio Capello getting the Coach of the Year. He's managed to get an England team, which was much better than all the other teams in their group, to qualify for the World Cup. Whippy do.
Cant disagree with you there , Ladies Cricket should have won the Team award they won everything
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| Just got back from Sheffield and there was shocking decisions (not withstanding in a list of 10 sportsman with 6 world champions that a sportsman who in 2009 only won their domestic league competition and the 2nd most prestigious cup competition won 30% of the public vote when only 11 of the 26 publications who nominated sportsman nominated him.
The wrong sex English cricket team won the team award given that the Aussies sent one of the poorest touring teams in years and we only just scraped a series win against them.
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| Quote ="FoxyRhino"Just got back from Sheffield and there was shocking decisions (not withstanding in a list of 10 sportsman with 6 world champions that a sportsman who in 2009 only won their domestic league competition and the 2nd most prestigious cup competition won 30% of the public vote when only 11 of the 26 publications who nominated sportsman nominated him.
The wrong sex English cricket team won the team award given that the Aussies sent one of the poorest touring teams in years and we only just scraped a series win against them.'"
The public haven't voted Ryan Giggs for his achievements this year alone though, it's for an outstanding playing career which has gone on for 20 years and doesn't look like stopping any time soon.
He was instrumental in Manchester United's 18th League title victory and his 11th personal winners medal, and the third in a row.
He's the most decorated British footballer ever, and many would argue he is the greatest footballer to ever grace the British game, maybe even the world.
He has rarely been in the spotlight for off-field actions, he is the model professional and the perfect role model for any young sportsperson out there for how to be loyal, look after yourself, conduct yourself and get the best out of your talent. His charity commitments often get overlooked, because he doesn't go hogging the limelight.
The award is a joke like the PFA Player of the Year award, in the sense that it should've been awarded to him many years ago, but you can't deny a person the award on a sentimental basis.
Two people who I thought deserved the award weren't even nominated, and that's Phil Taylor (won everything except the Premier League, including his 14th World title) and Tony McCoy (won his 3000th race).
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It wouldn't have been so bad if they weren't up against a team playing the same sport who won more. Only difference been of course that one are a team of men and the other women. To get the best team for winning just one test series is stupid.
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Since when has SPOTY been judged on career-long achievements though?
You can blame the sports media for not nominating Phil Taylor and Tony McCoy. Someone on the BBC forum tallied the number of votes each sportsperson got (out of a maximum 26)
www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A60297195
Tony McCoy got 6 votes, Phil Taylor 3 (and Ryan Giggs only got 11 putting him only 9th highest out of the 10 nominees tonight).
I agree that Ryan Giggs is a true sportsman. Keeps out of the media limelight and playing for 20 years for one club is admirable but for him to win when there were 6 world champions nominated just proves that football is the most popular sport in this country.
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Since when has SPOTY been judged on career-long achievements though?
You can blame the sports media for not nominating Phil Taylor and Tony McCoy. Someone on the BBC forum tallied the number of votes each sportsperson got (out of a maximum 26)
www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A60297195
Tony McCoy got 6 votes, Phil Taylor 3 (and Ryan Giggs only got 11 putting him only 9th highest out of the 10 nominees tonight).
I agree that Ryan Giggs is a true sportsman. Keeps out of the media limelight and playing for 20 years for one club is admirable but for him to win when there were 6 world champions nominated just proves that football is the most popular sport in this country.
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