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| if he is surplus to requirements at Hull KR (or basically not good enough) its a bit of a kick in the teeth to saints fans
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| Quote ="tad rhino"www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12196_5573967,00.html
good signing?
past his best?
FWIW i think it's a terrible signing for saints. look what has happened at the bulls when they started to sign average, poor players'"
Jumped or pushed ???
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| possibly a bit of both mate. hasn't been playing recently.only played on friday due to injuries
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Shocking signing. Saints fans should be asking some questions if he is the best they can come up with...
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| Quote ="tad rhino"www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12196_5573967,00.html
good signing?
past his best?
FWIW i think it's a terrible signing for saints. look what has happened at the bulls when they started to sign average, poor players'"
Kevin Ward, Kevin Iro, David Fairleigh, Paul Anderson ring any bells...?
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| He’ll still have it in him..
It’s a bit like the Gary Mercer signing we made..
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| Quote ="eddiewaringsflatcap"Kevin Ward, Kevin Iro, David Fairleigh, Paul Anderson ring any bells...?'"
fozzard isn't in there class mate, nowhere near it. he did nothing on friday and i honestly think it's a poor signing.
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| Quote ="eddiewaringsflatcap"Kevin Ward, Kevin Iro, David Fairleigh, Paul Anderson ring any bells...?'"
It's a $h1t signing and you know it.
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| take away his leading with the elbow or raising his knees and the gargoyle got nuttin
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| Quote ="rhinod4n"icon_biggrin.gif
Shocking signing. Saints fans should be asking some questions if he is the best they can come up with...'"
Questions are being asked. But put it another way, he's better than all but one of the Leeds prop forwards and is only there for 1 season at the end of which we are trying to sign Luke Bailey. A Bailey/Graham front row isn't something to be sniffed at.
Foz isn't a great signing, but he'll do a solid job of helping out Graham. Graham and Fozzard as starting props, with Puletua, Fa'asavalu and Roby from the bench? Soliola could also play second row against Leeds if they wanted some more grunt.
Put yet another way we're trading an expensive international player who has contributed about 6 sub appearances this year for a rugged prop who'll soak up work through the season for much less wonga.
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| Good signing IMO.
A big, experienced prop. Adds depth, is a healthy improvement on Hargeaves, takes pressure off Jammer and comes cheaply. I understand we're still looking to sign another forward too.
Graham
Cunningham
Fozzard
Flannery
Wilkin
Roby
Puletua
Faasavalu
Clough
Moore
Hargreaves dropping down to 4th prop, with Emmitt and Frodsham behind him and Soliola/Ashurst/Dixon cover for the back row.
Lomax, Foster, Ellis, Dean, Armstrong cover in the backs.
We needed this type of squad signing in the forwards, I'm happy to have him back.
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"It's a $h1t signing and you know it.'"
Au contraire.
This signing helps take some of the weight of Graham's shoulders. Playing Fozz should allow Puletua to drop to his preffered role of second row. With Moore coming back home, it means the pack should be a lot more physical and skilful next year.
Fozz can also help the likes of Frodsham, Dixon and Maggenis come on along with the remainder of the young pack that recently hammered their Leeds counterparts.
It is by no means a showcase signing - nor is it meant to be - but it will be highly effective in my opinion.
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| I think his heart is at Saints and he will return to better form next year in a Saints jersey. That said, what it does show his Saints potential youth issues in the forwards and unlike Leeds, whom have moved to pick up some young talent from elsewhere, Saints are struggling and he is a short term desperation type move. If I was a Saints fan it would not be the signing of Fozzard as such that would the issue, but the fact they have had to sign him!
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| Nothing but average! The bloke never did have much skill, now that he is getting old he naturally has less energy which results in losing the collison.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Questions are being asked. But put it another way, he's better than all but one of the Leeds prop forwards '"
There are times when I really fancy a hit of the $h1t you are smoking
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"There are times when I really fancy a hit of the $h1t you are smoking
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I would imagine he gets through far more work than any of your props bar Peacock.
Just what we need to take the heat off Graham.
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"There are times when I really fancy a hit of the $h1t you are smoking
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He's obviously missed him getting bounced by ALL our props then!!
I think this signing smacks of desperation and however they try and dress it up he won't be "as cheap" as they make out and dummy spitting,foot stomping,teddy throwing FGB will still be over-relyed on and be the new "fielden" by the time he's 26.
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"There are times when I really fancy a hit of the $h1t you are smoking
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Go on then, bar the obvious exception in the superb Mr Peacock, which Leeds prop is clearly better than Nick Fozzard?
Ryan Bailey isn't, Kylie isn't. Burgess? Possibly now and definitely in a year or two.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"I would imagine he gets through far more work than any of your props bar Peacock.
Just what we need to take the heat off Graham.'"
Well the stats would suggest otherwise, with Kylie , Burgess and Fozzards stats looking very similar. Bailey stats are not worth looking at though due to injury, so the answer there would be no then!
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Go on then, bar the obvious exception in the superb Mr Peacock, which Leeds prop is clearly better than Nick Fozzard?
Ryan Bailey isn't, Kylie isn't. Burgess? Possibly now and definitely in a year or two.'"
Kylie is a much better prop than fozzard and when they've faced off kylie by plenty!!
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Well the stats would suggest otherwise, with Kylie , Burgess and Fozzards stats looking very similar. Bailey stats are not worth looking at though due to injury, so the answer there would be no then!'"
Do they? Fozzard appears to have made more carries, metres and tackles in 6 fewer games than KL.
That looks like a fair bit more work to me. Which is exactly what we need to lift some of the responsibility from Graham's shoulders.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Kylie is a much better prop that fozzard and when they've faced off kylie by plenty!!'"
not so sure kylie is ok in very short bursts yes he does hit the ball up hard and hits hard but fozzy does that aswell and longer stints, but i do think it's a bad signing going back to someone you did'nt want in the first place smacks of desparation to me
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| Too old. Past it. Knees and desire have gone.
Saints fans would be knocking one out if we'd made such a desperate signing.
As far being better than all our forwards bar 1. Well, maybe five years ago, yes.
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| Quote ="G1"Too old. Past it. Knees and desire have gone.'"
Could be right, could be wrong. Guess we'll see.
All I know is he is better than Hargreaves and stops us having to play back rowers as props, so improves the squad.
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