I hate Bentham & Ganson with a passion

BUT our discpline is getting beyond a joke.

Got to agree you cant get anywhere giving away so many penalties and so much possesion. Been a problem all season and not getting any better.

What did they do wrong exactly? ? ?

Apart from giving correct decisions for Leeds' s*it discipline.

I would like to think that come play-off time we'll quit thiks silly habit of giving away penalties. There were so many for holding down, and they were mostly stupid. Also, we gave two pens away when we had the ball.

Had me punching the cushion with frustration

13 - 7 against us. Not saying we would have won as Wigan, in the second half, were streets ahead but you cannot give teams that sort of extra possession. We've gone from being one of the least penalised sides to one of the worst. When are we going to learn?

We're good enough to get to the GF, but I can see us blowing the game due to our idiotic infringements.

It's way past time for Bluey to have sorted out this indiscipline.

Didn't Stevo say in the commentary that Bluey has been telling the players about their discipline. Well if that's the case and they still don't understand him he'll have to start speaking in a language they understand.....money.

There is just not any excuse - it is now beyond a joke.It does not say much for the coach if he cannot get the message through after all this time.
Mind you this loss has been coming for awhile as we have been lucky and scraping too many wins lately.

There is some RL refereeing courses coming up, should we put your name down?

Obviously.

go for it, i cant do any worse, eh we might win a penalty count!!!!!!!

You one of those parents who abuse refs @ junior level?

To be honest, in the last couple of matches I think you've seen them trying to get off the man quicker at the play the ball, but that attitude only seems to last for about 30 mins before they revert to the bad old ways, and cough up easy metres to the opposition.

You royally ed yourselves over in that second half with penalties. Two penalties in succesion on your own try line is just plain dumb.

I could set my watch by you.

Leeds lose and you're straight on here.

People are catching on to something I posted in the middle of last year - McLennan is unable to sort out the teams' discipline.

If it continues and we don not win the Grand Final I would sack him.

It's incredibly frustrating. All you get is complaints about how we are being treat differently by refs. If that's how he feels he should meet with the controller.

We were getting penalised so many times for the same offence, it's a surprise Bentham didn't give Sinfield a warning that the next offender would be sin binned.

Its' a fundemntal.

I still feel we can beat anyone on our day and we could still win the championship if we do not give ourselves an upward struggle by conceding possession and territory.

The coach should sort this out and if he can't he should go.

How does he stop JJB/McGuire/Peacock/Ali giving away penalties drop them all?

Alarming comment coming from coach McClennan after the game last night regarding the team's indiscipline.

The team were fatigued (not helped by giving needless penalties away) and at least none of the thirteen penalties were for dissent towards the official.

Hardly makes it alright, does it?

Penalties were conceded by:
McGuire - 4
Jones-Buchanan - 2
Sinfield
Smith
Lauitiiti
Ablett
Burgess
Leuluai
Peacock

leeds disipline is bad, but referees are having more & more of an influence on the outcome of results throughout the game, we sit there watching a game & one of the lads will say so & so will get a penalty in this set of 6, & nearly every time it happens, its predictable & stage managed. a blind eye is turned as the season does not really start until september, I amongst others who have held season tickets in the past won't pay to watch the ganson show etc, much rather sit having a pint predicting when these clowns will give a penelty to even the game up.

The propensity to concede penalties - relative to other teams - has been worsening since well before Mclennan's arrival.

The style of the infringements does seem to fit with fatigued or, more likely in my opinion, frustrated players. From what I've seen it doesn't seem to be a policy from the outset but that PTB infringemens are a response that comes all too quickly when things aren't going to plan.

All teams are like that to a degree - a tired or under pressure team/player will concede a penalty. The difference is that this team tends to respond that way simply when things don't go according to plan and create pressure on themselves. I'd put that partly down to the arrogance of being champions 2 years on the trot and partly to the players under performing collectively this season.

A few weeks ago Leeds had conceded far more penalties than the rest. Before yesterday's match they'd improved to 2nd worst and were only 3 ahead of the 3rd. Overall, the relative performance was improving - possibly on the back of 6 wins on the bounce.

At half time yesterday the count seemed pretty even despite being away from home in front of a large partisan crowd playing in a what seemed to them to be a bit of a cup final. Although its a bit of a vicious circle it looke to me like Wigan upped their performance - not in the script - and Leeds responded with penalties, a couple a little harsh but for the most part fully justified for petulant conduct.