But who cares realy as long as we have a grand day out at Old trafford in October to watch the mighty Leeds.

I think we have the easier run in plus Saints have to take the cup games in to contention aswell.

Im talking crap i know but im on lates and i am realy realy bored.

Nail on head....hit

You dont say

We will indeed finish top. Its ours for the taking.

We beat Wigan this week and i think we finish top. Saints have a couple of losses in them with their fixtures and current injury situation.

McClennan said tonight that he thinks we will win the league, if we win the next two games.

Top = <shrug>

Agreed.

Meh.

Saints are struggling injury wise so we should finish top but that means nothing come play off time as we know all too well.

You don't win the the league. It's a non-trophy. Last year it just meant you got a home tie in all your playoff games, this year I haven't a clue what it means.

Yopu get a nice shiny plate though

Ooooh!

I think that is probably right.

Friday will be a much tougher game than people are giving credit to. We never seem to get it right going to Wigan.

But win that game, and we will be in a very strong position, and cant see us losing another after that.

But not confident about Friday.

Its a funny game. We won there in style last year, but I find with Wigan, when I expect to win we lose, and when I don't expect to we do. I am also a little nervous about this one.

2 points Leeds then

Not 100% on playoffs this year so not sure what advantage it is but remember saints - 4 top spots, 1 title.

I would be delighted if we finish top, but it will be meaningless if we then don't go on to win the Grand Final.
BUT it would stop all the crowing elsewhere about another team being the best for the 5th year in a row.
Actually, it probably wouldn't so no matter what we have to win the Grand Final.
We need to remember as well that we could also pick up crucial injuries before the end of the season, there are still 6 league games & ? play off games to go. In any one of which Peacock, say, could sustain a season ending injury.
Let's not count chickens while burning bridges.

Judging by Fridays game, its pray that does not happen to Sinfield, at all costs.

Why are people not bothered about finishing top?

It's the only place to finish IMO. Even though it counts for little in the grand scheme of things I'd still rather Leeds took it out than anyone else.

Same here, we have a better team in better form and they are missing a few through injury but I never go to Wigan with any confidence, we always seem to freeze.

Im very bothered! But I was also bothered about the WCC and the Challenge Cup, and thats a minority view too

I think given the choice 99% would prefer to finish top but with the play offs and GF it's just not that important anymore.

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I agree. I personally want the club to succeed in every competition. Yes the league leaders shield isn't the most important at the end of the day but it is sill an acheivement. Considering we haven't won the wcc or cc we need at least one piece of silverware at the end of the season.

The way I think about it is this. If I were to have a choice I would go for the Grand Final. That is what makes you true champions.

I think that the league leaders shield is still special because it shows a level of consistency, but I would never swap it for the GF. IMO if you win the LL it makes the GF even more special, as it shows consistency and ability to play the big games.

Its also a trophy, not the biggest one, but its silverware, and I don't think Leeds have had enough in the last 30 years to be sniffy about one

Thanks, that sums up my feelings very well.

Winning the League Leaders and winning the Grand Final needn't be a either / or choice, despite what St Helens have shown recently. It's perfectly possible (and reasonable) to do both.