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| to put Scotty D in the reserves for a couple of matches to get his confidence back & play Kallum on the Wing instead of him - lets face it on performance yesterday you would have thought that Scotty was the inexperienced winger not Kallum
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| Yeah I know, the way Watkins showed amazing speed to catch Hodgeson when he made that almost full length break..
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| Watkins has warranted another shot next week. Hall obviously to come back and let Scotty score a few and save a few in the reserves and let him build confidence.
It won't happen though.
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| He's playing on the wrong side yadda yadda yadda.
He needs flat tracks yadda yadda yadda.
He came from the NRL (reserve grade) yadda yadda yadda.
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| Quote ="Sallystar"to put Scotty D in the reserves for a couple of matches to get his confidence back & play Kallum on the Wing instead of him - lets face it on performance yesterday you would have thought that Scotty was the inexperienced winger not Kallum
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It's always going to be a tough call for a coach to drop a player who has just been given an extra year contract by your Chief Exec.
Remember, it was only a couple of months ago that Gary went public with his thoughts on the style of the current game, and made specific mention of our defeat at the hands of Bradford Bulls.
That was a very clear message to Bluey, that his boss was not a happy bunny. Given, that nobody knows which Rhino team is going to turn up, it puts Bluey between a rock and a hard place.
I reckon it would be best all round for Scotty to develop a "leg strain" that required a couple of weeks rest, plus another two weeks in the reserves to regain his confidence and get back up to speed.
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| I was thinking the same thing myself.
Would it be a good idea to drop Donald to the reserves.
Would this improve his confidence or destroy it.
Was it last month or the month before Watkins was copping some grief from the fans?
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| donald will come good. he dropped a couple of passes.who hasn't?
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| Quote ="tad rhino"donald will come good. he dropped a couple of passes.who hasn't?'"
yeah but one drop was a deffo try! & its not the first time he's fluffed it over the line - not knocking him as until this year he has been great - but just think he lacking so much in confidence that he is going to be targeted by other teams & could end up costing us bigtime - even yesterday late on you could see the rest of the team reluctant to pass to his side of the pitch in case he knocked on!
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| I think Scotty is a big confidence player, dropping him would only have a negative effect IMO.
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| The influence Keith Senior has over how good his winger looks is being clearly shown this season...
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"The influence Keith Senior has over how good his winger looks is being clearly shown this season...'"
But Keith Senior has been past it for the last 3 years
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| I think the problems with Donal are really caused by other factors, poor go-forward from the pack, move to un-natural side, inconsistent partnership etc.
When some of these issues are addressed we should see an improvement in Scotty. In the mean time he should try and get involved where he can, scoots and support, just to get a bit more confidence
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"The influence Keith Senior has over how good his winger looks is being clearly shown this season...'"
I was pondering the other day, while sat in a traffic jam near Oxford, the scoring rates for the winger on Senior's side over the past few years must make interesting reading. Bai, Donald, Hall, without stretching my memory, have all scored heavily playing outside Uncle Keith. Certainly tells you something doesn't it?
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| Quote ="El Diablo"I was pondering the other day, while sat in a traffic jam near Oxford, the scoring rates for the winger on Senior's side over the past few years must make interesting reading. Bai, Donald, Hall, without stretching my memory, have all scored heavily playing outside Uncle Keith. Certainly tells you something doesn't it?'"
According to official stats. (dont know where). The number of tries scored on the left side in Rugby League far outweighs the number scored on the right side.
Agree on the Senior issue by the way though.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"I was pondering the other day, while sat in a traffic jam near Oxford, the scoring rates for the winger on Senior's side over the past few years must make interesting reading. Bai, Donald, Hall, without stretching my memory, have all scored heavily playing outside Uncle Keith. Certainly tells you something doesn't it?'"
Extend that to Francis Cummins and Karl Pratt, players who Senior made to look so good they gained representative honours..
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| Also, makes you re-assess just how good a centre Chev was, considering the tries he and Calderwood chalked up on the right side.
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| Quote ="G1"Also, makes you re-assess just how good a centre Chev was, considering the tries he and Calderwood chalked up on the right side.'"
When he had time to catch the ball, think, then pass he was a good centre.
Sadly when he was denied that time he couldn't cope IMO.
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| I think that is harsh Andy.
We're giving all the credit for Hall and Donald's tries to Keith but look at Calderwood's record outside Chev and since.
TVOC thinks we've been missing a decent right centre since Toopi, I thin we've been missing one since Chev.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"According to official stats. (dont know where). The number of tries scored on the left side in Rugby League far outweighs the number scored on the right side.
Agree on the Senior issue by the way though.'"
That would have to be factored in I agree.
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| Quote ="G1"Also, makes you re-assess just how good a centre Chev was, considering the tries he and Calderwood chalked up on the right side.'"
I thought Walker went off the boil a bit, but that made people forget how well he had played at times for us, IMO.
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| Quote ="G1"I think that is harsh Andy.
We're giving all the credit for Hall and Donald's tries to Keith but look at Calderwood's record outside Chev and since.
TVOC thinks we've been missing a decent right centre since Toopi, I thin we've been missing one since Chev.'"
I'm far from giving all the credit to Keith, even chances created need finishing.
Had Chev achieved the same levels with a number of different wingers rather than just one you might have a basis for analysis. Unfortunately, he didn't.
Oh, and his handling in traffic varied between acceptable and appalling. IMO, of course.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"I thought Walker went off the boil a bit, but that made people forget how well he had played at times for us, IMO.'" His last season wasn't great and he was prone to some defensive lapses but Donald still scored 15 Sl tries outside him , the same he chalked up the following year outside Senior when he earned a dream team berth.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"
Had Chev achieved the same levels with a number of different wingers rather than just one you might have a basis for analysis. Unfortunately, he didn't.
'" See above. Donald 15 tries outside Chev. next season ourtside Keith, 15 tries.
2005 Calderwood 27 tries outside Chev.
2004 Callderwood/Cummins 13 tries outside Chev.
Not bad returns really.
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| Quote ="G1"His last season wasn't great and he was prone to some defensive lapses but Donald still scored 15 Sl tries outside him , the same he chalked up the following year outside Senior when he earned a dream team berth.'"
I think people turned on Chev a bit once he said he was off but he always had some weaknesses to his game - defensive lapses but also I seem to recall one of Phil Clarke's uberstats that Chev had the worst hands in SL in his last but one year.
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| Quote ="Puig-Aubert"I think people turned on Chev a bit once he said he was off but he always had some weaknesses to his game - defensive lapses but also I seem to recall one of Phil Clarke's uberstats that Chev had the worst hands in SL in his last but one year.'"
he's hardly set the world on fire since coming back to League - funny how players who leave us don;t seem to do as well with other teams - ie - feather, scruts, calders, chev
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