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| Hanley scored dozens from a similar position that Webb was in. When did the rules change? When Hanley signed for Leeds?
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| Quote ="ILL DIAB LEEO"Hanley scored dozens from a similar position that Webb was in. When did the rules change? When Hanley signed for Leeds?'"
Shut up.
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| It's true but irrelevant if you read the laws.
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| Quote ="The Laws "
Section 11 The Tackle & The Play The Ball
Retire at play the ball
10 (g) players of the side not in possession other than the-ball the player taking part in the play-the-ball and the acting half back are out of play if they fail to retire ten (10) metres from the point at which the ball is played or to their own goal lines. Players of the side in possession other than the player taking part in the play-the-ball and the acting halfback must retire behind their players involved in the play-the-ball or to their own goal line.
10(h) having retired the distance prescribed in the preceding paragraph no player of the team not in possession may advance until the ball has cleared the ruck. A player who is out of play may again take part in the game when the advantage gained by not retiring has been lost.'"
While I have the Laws of the game to hand .....
I think the confusion here comes from this bit:
Quote ="The Laws "A player who is out of play may again take part in the game when the advantage gained by not retiring has been lost.'"
That appears to be written with defenders in mind but is possibly open to interpretation and probably does apply to attackers in Super League every week when ball carriers "play them back onside"....hence another heated debate!
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| Quote ="King Monkey"Shut up.'"
GO AND F**K YOURSELF MEAT HEAD
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| Quote ="ILL DIAB LEEO"GO AND F**K YOURSELF MEAT HEAD'"
Bit OTT dont you think?
KM is tiny
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| Quote ="Maverick Rhino"That appears to be written with defenders in mind but is possibly open to interpretation and probably does apply to attackers in Super League every week when ball carriers "play them back onside"....hence another heated debate!
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Even if that was applied to an offside attacker at the play the ball Webb was never out of the play as he was offering support to Burrow all the way down the field. He didn't remotely retire out of the play he was in it all the way.
One to look out for in the future perhaps but another correct ruling for me.
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| Quote ="Hollywood Harrigan"Bit OTT dont you think?
KM is tiny
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NO. What gives him the right to tell me to shut up. I have as much right to my opinion as he has. If he can't handle being with the big boys, he should
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| Quote ="ILL DIAB LEEO"GO AND F**K YOURSELF MEAT HEAD'"
Oh he will, thats what w@nkers do!
HTH
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| Quote ="tvoc"Even if that was applied to an offside attacker at the play the ball Webb was never out of the play as he was offering support to Burrow all the way down the field. He didn't remotely retire out of the play he was in it all the way.'"
Having just watched the recording, that is probably right, although he actually turned and supported simultaneously as Burrow went past him but its hard to argue that negated the advantage from being there in the first place.
Quote ="tvoc"One to look out for in the future perhaps but another correct ruling for me.'"
That's the pertitant point IMO. By plucking this one out tonight they have opened a potential can of worms, it would probably better for all concerned if this one was put back in the "obscure" cupboard rather than earning a high profile on the refereeing agenda
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| Quote ="Floydy"Shut Up
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| Quote ="Maverick Rhino"That's the pertitant point IMO. By plucking this one out tonight they have opened a potential can of worms, it would probably better for all concerned if this one was put back in the "obscure" cupboard rather than earning a high profile on the refereeing agenda'"
I'm not as convinced as some appear to be that it's a common occurrence and I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see another such obvious example the rest of the season. I guess we'll see.
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| Quote ="tvoc"I'm not as convinced as some appear to be that it's a common occurrence and I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see another such obvious example the rest of the season. I guess we'll see.'"
Id love to know what made that rule even pop into the TJ's mind
Must have been bored on the toilet earlier
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| It says in the ruls that voulentry tackles are ilegal but you NEVER see them given. Out of interest how many on here actually knew about that rule before the Burrow no-try. Even the Bradford players didn't know.
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| Quote ="Could you please change m"Out of interest how many on here actually knew about that rule before the Burrow no-try. Even the Bradford players didn't know.'"
Whether anyone knows the laws or not it's common sense isn't it? An attacking player cannot possibly be allowed to stand in the defensive line at the play the ball and immediately be in position to back up a break can he?
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| Quote ="tvoc"Whether anyone knows the laws or not it's common sense isn't it? An attacking player cannot possibly be allowed to stand in the defensive line at the play the ball and immediately be in position to back up a break can he?'"
Ellery made a career of it. If the game isn't on sky that try gets given and noone would have said anything (apart from a few complaints about the last pass)
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| Quote ="Could you please change m"Ellery made a career of it. If the game isn't on sky that try gets given and noone would have said anything (apart from a few complaints about the last pass)'"
Any recent examples rather than using what Hanley did more than 15 years ago to illustrate your point?
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| Quote ="tvoc"Any recent examples rather than using what Hanley did more than 15 years ago to illustrate your point?'"
Well no. Because I never thought I'd have to remember any, but I know I must have seen it. Webb ran a support line and didn't get out of the way, Leeds then went on to "score" on the next play. That can't be the first time something like that has happend. It just never gets picked up on.
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| Quote ="Could you please change m"Well no. Because I never thought I'd have to remember any.'"
Well that's a shame because your case would be strengthened if you could refer to similar situations that have occurred recently that resulted in tries being allowed to stand.
I can't think of any either which strangely leaves me to conclude they're not as common an occurrence as some would have us believe.
The decision, in any case, was the correct one.
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| Quote ="ILL DIAB LEEO"GO AND F**K YOURSELF MEAT HEAD'"
Calm down, calm down (in my best plastic scouse) There seems to be some anger here, may i suggest some/all of you get laid/drunk or both
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| So, the rule states that once the advantage has gone, the player is onside: ie rob put him onside when he went past him.
Also, you have to credit Stevo this one time: if this was offside, every time a fullback collects a ball put behind the play and then runs forward, the whole team are offside.
Complete bollox? Exactly. we were robbed!
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| As I remember this law was highlighted in the days when the scrum on tackle 6 was abolished and teams started punting the ball downfield. In the early days none of the attacking team retired behind the PTB so were already most of the way down the field when the ball was kicked over their heads, ready to tackle the kick returner once he had moved the obligatory 5 metres.
Seemed a solid decision to me, as did the knock on for McGuire's no-try.
If you want to talk about incomprehensible decisions then the Ablett yellow card and the resulting no penalty for a blatant body check off the ball at the Bradford try are head and shoulders above the rest.
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| I liked the idea of the Smith being match ref and video ref. Can't blame the puppet operating the VR facility. He just did as Smith told him
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