Already alluded to on Eastwood thread but its an issue that deserves its own discussion IMO Can we afford to lose another prop? If we dont agree terms then we dont need any foul ups when looking foir a replacement like the Eastwood situation this year. www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/r ... 5074003.jp

Already alluded to on Eastwood thread but its an issue that deserves its own discussion IMO Can we afford to lose another prop? If we dont agree terms then we dont need any foul ups when looking foir a replacement like the Eastwood situation this year. www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/r ... 5074003.jp

Quote ="King Monkey"Already alluded to on Eastwood thread but its an issue that deserves its own discussion IMO Can we afford to lose another prop? If we dont agree terms then we dont need any foul ups when looking foir a replacement like the Eastwood situation this year. www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/r ... 5074003.jp'" Although concerned at the thought of losing Kylie, much more concernced at the chance of losing Smith. In the interests of the non hypocrits, I would have thought the pro youngsters / no need for signings brigade would be too.

Quote ="King Monkey"Already alluded to on Eastwood thread but its an issue that deserves its own discussion IMO Can we afford to lose another prop? If we dont agree terms then we dont need any foul ups when looking foir a replacement like the Eastwood situation this year. www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/r ... 5074003.jp'" Although concerned at the thought of losing Kylie, much more concernced at the chance of losing Smith. In the interests of the non hypocrits, I would have thought the pro youngsters / no need for signings brigade would be too.

I know leeds want him to stay so i hope the deal is right for both parties.
If however he does move on then now is the time to line up a replacement and get all the red tape sorted early.

Completely different positions and scenario imo.

Quote ="King Monkey"Already alluded to on Eastwood thread but its an issue that deserves its own discussion IMO Can we afford to lose another prop? If we dont agree terms then we dont need any foul ups when looking foir a replacement like the Eastwood situation this year. www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/r ... 5074003.jp'" Nope. Unless we have a better replacement we should keep him.

Quote ="King Monkey"Already alluded to on Eastwood thread but its an issue that deserves its own discussion IMO Can we afford to lose another prop? If we dont agree terms then we dont need any foul ups when looking foir a replacement like the Eastwood situation this year. www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/r ... 5074003.jp'" Nope. Unless we have a better replacement we should keep him.

Willie Mason



Don’t think that’ll go down well with Peacock though..

Good solid workhorse is Kylie, no frills, allways looking for work and when fired up is devestating. I would be loathe to part with him. Very, very underated IMO.

couldn`t have put it better

Hows Ambler doing? when will he be ready for the 1st team or is he a long way from that just yet

What's funny????
The current debate is about centre's is it not??? and or back-rowers!!!
There is depth within the squad at the moment to cover centre and backrow from within our acadamy whereas if kylie left it would leave us light in the front row.

He's looked ok to me when i've seen him play pre-season and what i've seen in the acadamy wether he's ready to step up yet i don't know!!

Quote ="King Monkey" www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/r ... 5074003.jp'" The authors name at the top of that article says it all for me.....

Quote ="King Monkey" www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/r ... 5074003.jp'" The authors name at the top of that article says it all for me.....

Not for me it aint.

I would not want to lose a gifted british player who can cover various positions, whilst paying for overseas players. I thought that was the argument of some.

Equally, I would also not want to lose Kylie.

Ta luv.

"When players come out of contract, they are free to do what they want." - Gary Hetherington

Read between those lines (or words on a line.)

Hang on who said anything about signing overseas players to replace smith????




I don't want to lose either player but the squad would be in need of a replacement to be signed if kylie leaves.
Whereas imo IF smith goes we have webb,Bjb and broughton who can cover his loss aswell as versatility within the squad to absorb that loss.
I also think wires have been crossed here disa re-signing a new centre now debate.

I actually think he makes a good serious point or have i been reeled in???

For the first time since the speculation began, I'm now of the opinion that Lee Smith is actually leaving for Wasps. He will take some replacing, but we will do it.

If Leuluai does leave for that great pension fund over the hill, will we be tempted to take Scruton back if the Bulls are doing nothing? I bet he'd come back for Kylie's salary.

its more of a pride thing, he won't come back

You actually missed off Donald from list.

Therefore you are saying you are happy to cover the potential loss of a gifted British player who plays in various positions, with an overseas player who can only play one position, and another who has only just come back from serious injury.

You dont see an hypocritical stance on that, fair enough. I do though.

And I agree with been short on the props, and the need to keep Kylie.

I want to retain his services, no question, he's added the steel us Rhinos fans have been demanding for donkeys. But this is where the salary cap issue comes in, as it makes it harder to retain personnel in a successful team. I'm not too bothered about that, I suppose you have to pay for your success one way or another.

The Kylie situation is similar to the Scrutton case. Both will have wanted improved contracts. Scrutton was younger and wanted a contract to reflect his progression and his his Grand Final ring. He didn't get it here. Now as for Kylie, he was a journey man in the NRL (Tigers, Roosters, Eels and Manly) so I bet his contract salary wasn't huge. Fast forward a few years, and he has been a huge player in winning back to back titles, his form is good, always in the 17, and our starting 8, not injury prone (touch wood) and is a crowd favourite. So no doubt his agent will be demanding an improved deal. I bet the Rhinos will want to give him an improved contract, but it depends what funds are available. I hope a compromise can be made, and we can keep the service of the strongest freak in SL.

But if he does chase the £££ then I suppose a hook up with his cousin may seem very appealing. Like in the Scrutton case we can question 'job satisfaction' but Kylie's career is in the Autumn and a big pay day may be too strong a temptation to turn down. I wonder what Jesus Christ would make of this? Also would want to leave his Kiwi brothers to play alongside Fielden? I have a strong feeling that won't happen anyway, one way or another.

The Inns and Outs list could look something like this at the end of the season. The Inns are who I ope we sign



Outs:
Smith
Leuluai
Donald


Inns:
Burgess
Graham
Folau

What's hypocritical about the current squad covering the possible loss of a young british player???
Webb is no1 FB anyway!! So the cover comes from Bjb homegrown acadamy player!!
His perceived move to the centre's is covered by senior,watkins and gibson plus ablett as back up.
His wing position is covered by hall,donald and if needs be gibson and/or watkins. Then the next in line is broughton again homegrown acadamy player.
So after digesting that WHAT'S HYPOCRITICAL???????