have been the voices of the game on Sky for a long time and I sometimes think they get a bit of unecessary stick but they were an embarrassment tonight.

Calling Danny Orr, Danny McGuire and mixing up McShane and Kirke were bad enough but the way they constantly harped on about the forward passes without ever showing an angle which proved it one way or the other was a disgrace. It's never, that's 50:50, it's always miles forward or fine according to Stevo. On the tries I'd have probably given all 3 (their 2 and Jonesy's) but they were all tough calls, not cut and dried as they made out.

Also the hit by chase on Sinfield, while not dirty by any stretch was clearly high as he copped him on the jaw. Stevo, despite numerous replays spent the next 5 minutes saying he'd hit his chest and his head had jarred back. Just watch it, it's not difficult to see what's happened!

Rant over

Danny McGuire playing against his hometown club....oh sorry he's a Leeds lad I mean Rob Burrow.

The after match analysis with Eddie forgetting Ellis' name after the try of the month was very cringeworthy.

Eddie is the new Ray French

it is old age my granddad has stevos autograph from when he was a lad

They were awful tonight. How anyone can confuse Paul McShane and Ian Kirke I will never know!!!

And as for the 3 forward passes...I think the 2nd Cas 'try' was definitely just forwards. They were all close but Stevo has to always go against Leeds. Not sure why he is so anti-Leeds.

Phil Clarke was surprisingly pro-Leeds today though, or maybe that was just in comparison to Stevo!

Dumb and Dumber were woeful tonight.

Eddie calling Danny Orr Danny McGuire and Stevo repeatedly insisting that ‘those’ passes were not forward – I swear if that dumb nugget bleats on about the friggin’ ‘Momentum Rule’ one more time I’m going to turn the sound down and watch the game silence.

hang on a minute...he's not that bad.

It's not the bleating on for me. It's the way he makes a decision at full speed and even after replays show otherwise, or show that it's not clear, he still insists he's right!

At least Eddie wighead owned up to having too much sherry due to the royal wedding, what's Stevos excuse?

Absolutely agree even when proved wrong you get the "well i'm not convinced" sh#te from him time to ditch the blind old cliche'd buffoon and switch to the likes of Carney ,Wells and Bill Arthur.

Bill Arthur is awful to be fair.

Carney for me or at the very least someone who knows what they're on about.

totally agree, but i think there is an element of it being a bit of an on air persona with Stevo too though.

I agree and I've defended him before as I quite like the character but he is arguing black is white at times! A nightmare

The obsession with "forward" passes is tedious, and completely inconsistant. Stevo was convinced a pass was forward in the build up to JJB's try, despite the fact that there was a player obscurring the camera view and you couldn't even see the pass leaving McGuire's hands. Despite the fact that camera angles are deceptive and despite the fact that you couldn't even see the pass they are still prepared to show replay after replay and pass judegement. If you throw the ball 3 yards forward and it's missed then sure, make a comment (or if it's Cas throwing them claim they were actually okay).

Long past time for the retirement village to make a couple of rooms available.

Flying prop??? Flying pr1ck more like.

Their negativity is quite damaging to the sport.
Compare it to other sports, and we're way out of line.

I'll sort your quote out for you



Why am I not surprised to see you glorifying a Leeds player being hurt? There was no intention but part of Chase's arm clearly made contact with Sinfield's jaw. IMO it was probably a penalty but that wasn't the point I was making. It was that Stevo claimed Kev was hurt by his head jarring backwards.

As for the forward passes - it pretty clear they were all borderline as I expressed sympathy for cas who I think got a raw deal. None were conclusive after watching the footage. I'll say again - I'd have probably allowed all 3.

Stevo's not the problem, it's Eddie. Eddie has forgotten his role. Eddie is there for commentary, we have ex players Stevo, Clarke and Carney for analysis. Let them analyse.

Eddie should simply commentate.

Time for a good clearout. Stevo, Hemmings, Clarke, Cullen to go.
I quite like Carney and Wells but workung with the above long term could change that.

Oh and I'd let O'Connor go as well. Not sure about Barrie.

That's not likely to and probably shouldn't happen. They need to be phased out gradually.

Tbh despite Barrie and Terry's warm personalities I'm not sure either of them are very good mic in hand. I like there role they have taken in Grand Finals pitch side but can't ever see them being main stays of a commentary team

Eddie's ego was for me summed up in the commentary of our game at Hull KR the other week.

There was a shot of Shaun Briscoe, Stevo says "there's the man with the most distinctive nose in Super League"

Eddie "You always say I have the most distinctive nose in Super League"

Stevo "Yes, but you're not in Super League Eddie"

Their incompetence was highlighted again today with the Saints penalty at the end. Despite replays showing otherwise and Carney, Clarke and Wells telling them otherwise they still went off air insisting Washbrook wasn't going for the ball! Unbelievable!