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| St Helens coming up next week and a tough encounter expected. They look to have coped a few injuries today with Paasi the worst, they may have also lost Walmsley and Welsby who both were hobbling badly at the end of the game today. They’ll likely have Roby and Percival back, but will lose Lussick as he returns home. Don’t think Mbye will be over in time for the game.
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| Aye, they took a bit of a battering today. TBH I'd be surprised if they manage to lift themselves next time out. Then again, they might not need to if we throw in one of our random no-shows..
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| They'll be out for revenge because they probably blame Richie Myler for today's defeat.
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| A one off chance to put the saints to the sword should be a walk in the park with all their injuries.
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| They'll have no more injuries than we do.
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| Quote ="RAPIDO"A one off chance to put the saints to the sword should be a walk in the park with all their injuries.'"
Well that's got to be a first.
A trip to St.Helens described as "a walk in the park" for a team struggling in 8th place.
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| This is a winnable game - Wellens looks like a very good technical coach but hasn't yet developed the man management skills of a top coach. My concern would be are the Saints academy players better than our first team players? Saints are a good side and cannot be under estimated.
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| We are very good at underestimating teams. We only seem to go well when we are not expected to win.
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| Quote ="Simmo71"Well that's got to be a first.
A trip to St.Helens described as "a walk in the park" for a team struggling in 8th place.
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Completely agree, do people honestly believe an 8th placed team who’ve already lost to Wakey and Cas would ever be favourites vs 4 time champions?!
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| I wouldnt say it will be a walk in the park but we've already beaten Saints this year, so why cant we do it again?
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| Quote ="leedsbarmyarmy"I wouldnt say it will be a walk in the park but we've already beaten Saints this year, so why cant we do it again?'"
We could, but will be big underdogs. Bring it on though……
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| No such thing as a walk in the park against any form of saints team.
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| Quote ="Shabino"We could, but will be big underdogs. Bring it on though……'"
Really? They're only 4 points ahead of us in the table.
I'd say they're favourites but wouldn't say we are massive underdogs
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| Quote ="Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino"No such thing as a walk in the park against any form of saints team.'"
Apart from 2004 when we beat them 70-0, great times
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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"This is a winnable game - Wellens looks like a very good technical coach but hasn't yet developed the man management skills of a top coach. My concern would be are the Saints academy players better than our first team players? Saints are a good side and cannot be under estimated.'"
I think wellens is a decent coach and a decent man. However whilst I still think saints are a top class side I think wellens has received a poisoned chalice. Some of his top flight players are aging and need replacements, not easy as lots of clubs are chasing decent players including us. Let’s not forget Leigh were excellent but ultimately saints poor goal kicking lost them the game. This Friday ,saints will be up for this game as a result of last Saturdays result. Think it’s a massive challenge for us , can see it being a close game. Certainly not expecting an easy game.
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| Quote ="leedsbarmyarmy"Really? They're only 4 points ahead of us in the table.
I'd say they're favourites but wouldn't say we are massive underdogs'"
From a Saints perspective you’d be disappointed not to be overwhelming favourites against a team lower in the league, at home, coming off a terrible result and performance vs HKR, without their main strike player (Newman).’but we all see it differently so fair play, we’ll probably hammer them!
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| Quote ="Backwoodsman"I think wellens is a decent coach and a decent man. However whilst I still think saints are a top class side I think wellens has received a poisoned chalice. Some of his top flight players are aging and need replacements, not easy as lots of clubs are chasing decent players including us. Let’s not forget Leigh were excellent but ultimately saints poor goal kicking lost them the game. This Friday ,saints will be up for this game as a result of last Saturdays result. Think it’s a massive challenge for us , can see it being a close game. Certainly not expecting an easy game.'"
Their last three games - Wire, Catalans and Leigh - have all been high quality and high intensity. Don't know whether that might have some impact on them for Friday, or whether they'll just trot out and do it again. Suspect injuries and suspension will be key. We know Passi will be out, but if Walmsley and Scarsbrook are also struggling and Matauti cops a suspension it takes a lot away from them. A lot of ifs there though. The main thing is that we turn up play hard and do the basics well. As we know that is far from a given.
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| Quote ="Shabino"From a Saints perspective you’d be disappointed not to be overwhelming favourites against a team lower in the league, at home, coming off a terrible result and performance vs HKR, without their main strike player (Newman).’but we all see it differently so fair play, we’ll probably hammer them!'"
No if i was a Saints fan I don't think i would be thinking they'd be overwhelming favourites, they've got injuries and suspensions and like i said they're not that far ahead in the table.
Newman's barely played for two years and we're not far off been full strength and have already beaten Saint, Wigan, Cats and Wire this year.
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| Matautia banned for 2 games.
So him and Paasi both missing and checks on Walmsley, Knowles and Welsby and possibly Makinson.
Roby and Percival returning for Saints.
Don`t underestimate their young forwards who might have to step in.
Should be a close game with us edging it by 8 imo.
I can hope.
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| Don't forget Bachelor and Sirronen were also out on Saturday, no guarantee they'll be back either.
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| Quote ="gulfcoast_highwayman"They'll be out for revenge because they probably blame Richie Myler for today's defeat.'"
His role in mata'utia's ban has been mentioned on Redvee. You'll need extra popcorn if you dip into their disciplinary thread though
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| As a Saints fan our last two perfomances have been as bad as anything under Cunningham Leeds are favourites for me
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| Quote ="Clearwing"His role in mata'utia's ban has been mentioned on Redvee. You'll need extra popcorn if you dip into their disciplinary thread though
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Some of the things on twitter are a great read.
Some guys claiming that the Leigh player purposely head butted Paasi’s knee, saying it should be a grade F head butt charge
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| Quote ="thesaint71"As a Saints fan our last two perfomances have been as bad as anything under Cunningham '"
You need medication.
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| Quote ="Backwoodsman"I think wellens is a decent coach and a decent man. However whilst I still think saints are a top class side I think wellens has received a poisoned chalice. Some of his top flight players are aging and need replacements, not easy as lots of clubs are chasing decent players including us. Let’s not forget Leigh were excellent but ultimately saints poor goal kicking lost them the game. This Friday ,saints will be up for this game as a result of last Saturdays result. Think it’s a massive challenge for us , can see it being a close game. Certainly not expecting an easy game.'"
I agree about Wellens - would be a shame if he went the same way as Cunningham - they had won 9 on the trot prior to the semi?
It will be tough game - Saints will not want to let their fans down - we will have to improve significantly from the Hull KR game. They are a top side with very good youngsters coming through too.
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