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| Leeming to the Gold Coast Titans confirmed
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| Quote ="Jack Burton"Leeming to the Gold Coast Titans confirmed'"
Fair play. Be interesting to see how much game time he gets.
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| Quote ="Simmo71"Fair play. Be interesting to see how much game time he gets.'"
He’ll get some time as they’re really struggling. Might be a better fit there. Loads of quick support runners to feed off. Wish him well
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| They have injuries in the hooking position, so he'll get game time
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| Quote ="Jack Burton"Leeming to the Gold Coast Titans confirmed'"
His statement was really petty IMO
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| Quote ="Jack Burton"Leeming to the Gold Coast Titans confirmed'"
Smith has now had Mellor, Sutcliffe, Prior and Leeming leave whilst under contract.
I saw Hardaker said he thought our salary cap was a mess last year and still is. Makes me wonder if we have had to pay to exit sutty, Prior and now Leeming and that is cutting into the cap for this year.
Never mind getting a fee for leeming, we might in effect still be paying him a chunk of cap
I’ll caveat this by saying I don’t receive financial advice from Zak
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| Quote ="Sir Gregory ParsloeP"Smith has now had Mellor, Sutcliffe, Prior and Leeming leave whilst under contract.
I saw Hardaker said he thought our salary cap was a mess last year and still is. Makes me wonder if we have had to pay to exit sutty, Prior and now Leeming and that is cutting into the cap for this year.
Never mind getting a fee for leeming, we might in effect still be paying him a chunk of cap
I’ll caveat this by saying I don’t receive financial advice from Zak'"
I doubt were paying Kruise anything, what bargaining power would he have had? He asked to leave.
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| Hope you are right but he could have hung around and made life difficult. Smith has clearly fallen out with him.
For 2024, I don’t have any clue who to try and sign from the NRL and whether we can get better that what we have. The only one who must go for me is Fusitua.
He has talent but is too slow and when we gave away the soft try v. Catalan he was stood close by waiting for the next carry and literally stood like a statue when Martin lost the ball and did nothing to stop the try, he looks to me like retirement is beckoning which is sad because I bet he was good when fit 5 or 6 years ago.
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| Quote ="christopher"His statement was really petty IMO'"
There's no smoke without fire not sure where you're inside information regarding his departure comes from but guess its easy to bag him now he's gone!
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| Quote ="RAPIDO"There's no smoke without fire not sure where you're inside information regarding his departure comes from but guess its easy to bag him now he's gone!'"
Inside information, what on earth are you on about?
I don’t need inside knowledge to have s view on his statement.
Him declaring himself captain on a CC winning side (Gale was captain) then his obvious dig at Smith is as I say petty.
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| Quote ="Sir Gregory ParsloeP"Hope you are right but he could have hung around and made life difficult. Smith has clearly fallen out with him.
For 2024, I don’t have any clue who to try and sign from the NRL and whether we can get better that what we have. The only one who must go for me is Fusitua.
He has talent but is too slow and when we gave away the soft try v. Catalan he was stood close by waiting for the next carry and literally stood like a statue when Martin lost the ball and did nothing to stop the try, he looks to me like retirement is beckoning which is sad because I bet he was good when fit 5 or 6 years ago.'"
He was good really good but dropped off a cliff and found himself not making the 13 moved around and still on the outer got a good deal for himself in superleague and bombed out I think you're right he's yesterdays man.
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| Funny how often superstar NRL lads absolutely sink without trace, I wonder why they burn out like that?
I wish Kruise all the best, nice lad. He will feel rejected by Smith after getting really attached to Leeds, you wouldn’t expect him to be pleased about it.
Right decision for me though and Smith needs to sweep the broom through several other signings made under Sinfield and Agar. As much as Sinfield is golden balls and I do love him, I can’t think of a single signing he made that worked out and Agar not much better.
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| Prior first couple of seasons actually, though he was awesome for a while (although kept on at least 1 season too long).
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| Leeming just sounds bitter, the truth is regardless of our current very patchy form, O'connor is the better more consistent 9. Leemings ego either just didn't want to stay around and fight for that position or just fancied a year in aus, if so fair enough but if he was the better player he'd have been picked. In fact Smith recognised Leemings off season work by starting him the first couple of games and he was pretty average and poor at times.
Thanking everyone by name bar Smith just makes him look a bit of a tit. He lost the shirt, noone else.
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| Quote ="RAPIDO"There's no smoke without fire not sure where you're inside information regarding his departure comes from but guess its easy to bag him now he's gone!'"
What are you on about?!
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| Quote ="christopher"Inside information, what on earth are you on about?
I don’t need inside knowledge to have s view on his statement.
Him declaring himself captain on a CC winning side (Gale was captain) then his obvious dig at Smith is as I say petty.'"
I don't see any dig at Smith he's just being honest,Smith told him he wasn't in his plans Leeming didn't like it and asked for a release but some on here are making him out to be the pantomime villain.
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| Quote ="RAPIDO"I don't see any dig at Smith he's just being honest,Smith told him he wasn't in his plans Leeming didn't like it and asked for a release but some on here are making him out to be the pantomime villain.'"
Smith told him he wasn’t in his plans? Do you have any evidence of this? He started him in the first two games of the season.
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| Quote ="christopher"Smith told him he wasn’t in his plans? Do you have any evidence of this? He started him in the first two games of the season.'"
It’s obvious . He got dropped after the Hull game when he ran it on 5th tackle down a blind alley, at least X2. Think that was enough for Smith and rightly so as was like watching a schoolboy game!
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| I just hope Olpherts doesn't continue to be bulletproof to similar decision making.
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| Don’t Seth, I’m struggling to keep a lid on it after Friday night…
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| Quote ="Shabino"It’s obvious . He got dropped after the Hull game when he ran it on 5th tackle down a blind alley, at least X2. Think that was enough for Smith and rightly so as was like watching a schoolboy game!'"
Ok school boy pantomime villain, or as someone else said "tit" Justin Holbrook will have to take the daggers out of him when he lands, fwiw he's actually a really pleasant lad.
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| Quote ="Shabino"It’s obvious . He got dropped after the Hull game when he ran it on 5th tackle down a blind alley, at least X2. Think that was enough for Smith and rightly so as was like watching a schoolboy game!'"
Ok school boy pantomime villain, or as someone else said "tit" Justin Holbrook will have to take the daggers out of him when he lands, fwiw he's actually a really pleasant lad.
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| I'm absolutely sure he is a nice lad, that doesn't preclude him from being petty in this instance.
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| Leeming was obviously unhappy and Smith didn't want him - perfect result all round. All that would have happened is Leeming would have been treated as tackling fodder along with the younger players - humiliated
It would not have mattered how hard he fought for his place he was not in Smith's plans longer term. What is the point in training hard etc. when you know you wont get picked - depressing.
This happens in every club every season - perhaps he leaving note should have been an internal document.
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| Errm, but Smith gave him the 9 shirt and picked him to start in the first 2 games stating reward for his training in preseason? He simply didn't keep the shirt because he wasn't good enough.
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