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| 2020 Challenge Cup Semi-Final Draw
The draw for the semi-finals of the 2020 Coral Challenge Cup was made at half time during the last of the quarter finals between Hull FC and Wigan Warriors.
Salford Red Devils, Leeds Rhinos and Warrington Wolves were already in the hat as Jon Wilkin undertook a socially distanced draw at the AJ Bell Stadium in Salford.
The semi-finals will be played as a double header on Saturday 3rd October 2020 at a venue yet to be determined.
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| Crazy, three days after the games on 30th September, surely could have been played on the Sunday?
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| It wont matter to Leeds - Wigan will simply blow them away with their intensity.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"It wont matter to Leeds - Wigan will simply blow them away with their intensity.'"
When will people learn to stop making such definitive statements.
Repeatedly doing it during the golden generation didn't teach you so I'm gonna store this one away and see what happens.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"When will people learn to stop making such definitive statements.
Repeatedly doing it during the golden generation didn't teach you so I'm gonna store this one away and see what happens.'"
You do that - let's have a discussion in two weeks
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| same intensity that blew hull kr away? under new rules even more who turns up , on the pitch on the day
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| Quote ="doc-rhino"same intensity that blew hull kr away? under new rules even more who turns up , on the pitch on the day'"
That will be because Hull KR are a Tony Smith coached side so are totally amazing, except when they get absolutely thumped by us, twice that is, when this forum goes strangely quiet
As for the Wigan game, they are in fantastic form at the moment but 2 weeks seems to be a very long time in these current times, I believe Wigan also have a game on the 30th, it could all depend on what both coaches do with squad rotation.
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| Quote ="christopher"
As for the Wigan game, they are in fantastic form at the moment but 2 weeks seems to be a very long time in these current times, I believe Wigan also have a game on the 30th, it could all depend on what both coaches do with squad rotation.'" Wigan play Saints on the 30th. There is no way they can rest players for that game. If we lost to Catalan due to resting players it would be a shame, Lam simply doesn't have the option in the first place. A clear advantage to Leeds.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"When will people learn to stop making such definitive statements.
Repeatedly doing it during the golden generation didn't teach you so I'm gonna store this one away and see what happens.'"
Yes the golden generation got written off a few times
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"Yes the golden generation got written off a few times'"
And a few times that was justified - how many CC finals did they lose? For most people it was the style of rugby especially under McDermott that was the frustration - they won it from 5th twice which would suggest the quality during the season wasn't top notch?
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| Worth noting that the sides which won the GF from 2011 & 12 reached the Cup Final in both years as well as defeating Manly in in the World Club Challenge in 2012. Pretty successful seasons when you take them in the round although there were certainly some ups and downs. As fans we apply skyscraping standards (some more than others) for success, but I doubt whether many of us would care to measure our own achievements in life by such demanding criteria.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Wigan play Saints on the 30th. There is no way they can rest players for that game. If we lost to Catalan due to resting players it would be a shame, Lam simply doesn't have the option in the first place. A clear advantage to Leeds.'"
Wigan WILL rest players for the Saints game.
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| Really? Are the Wigan fans ready to accept a Leeds style bumming from Saints?
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| Wigan board reckons they've moved Saints game forward a day to 29th. Game on Sky.
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"Worth noting that the sides which won the GF from 2011 & 12 reached the Cup Final in both years as well as defeating Manly in in the World Club Challenge in 2012. Pretty successful seasons when you take them in the round although there were certainly some ups and downs. As fans we apply skyscraping standards (some more than others) for success, but I doubt whether many of us would care to measure our own achievements in life by such demanding criteria.'"
These are professional sportsman with nothing else to concentrate on other than performing for 80 minutes a week - surely it isn't that much to ask that basic standards should be delivered?
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"These are professional sportsman with nothing else to concentrate on other than performing for 80 minutes a week - surely it isn't that much to ask that basic standards should be delivered?'"
Eh?
Are you saying that the 'golden generation' that won - 3 World Club Championships, 2 Challenge Cup Finals, 3 league leaders shields, 1 triple title winning season and 8 Super League Titles didn't have basic standards?
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| Quote ="christopher"Eh?
Are you saying that the 'golden generation' that won - 3 World Club Championships, 2 Challenge Cup Finals, 3 league leaders shields, 1 triple title winning season and 8 Super League Titles didn't have basic standards?'"
What I am saying is they lacked consistency - especially during the regular season in 2011 they lost 11 games - they only won 15 and had a positive points difference of c150 very similar in 2012. What does that say - not great during the season great in the play offs?
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| I’d be surprised if Leeds kept Wigan to within 30 but who knows, Leeds will certainly have to put in their best performance of the season to grab any result
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"What I am saying is they lacked consistency - especially during the regular season in 2011 they lost 11 games - they only won 15 and had a positive points difference of c150 very similar in 2012. What does that say - not great during the season great in the play offs?'"
It says that peaking at the right time is what matters in a competition that has a playoff system.
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| Quote ="christopher"It says that peaking at the right time is what matters in a competition that has a playoff system.'"
Quite. They were a champion team who got it right when it matters.
And of course year after year they were doing all their training aiming to peak in early february for the world club game and then again for september /october when the play offs came around. If you don't understand how these players are conditioned it might not make sense but it was really hard not to have a physical and mental lull in between times when you were playing all the other clubs who had a more natural cycle to their seasons.
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| If peaking at the right time is a reasonable thing to do, then I don't have to buy tickets until that peak happens. Good luck paying the players when I only go to finals (pretty cheap hobby the way Leeds are going).
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| Quote ="Hopie"If peaking at the right time is a reasonable thing to do, then I don't have to buy tickets until that peak happens. Good luck paying the players when I only go to finals (pretty cheap hobby the way Leeds are going).'"
Crikey, how much is your season ticket? Must be a lot if the players wont get paid if you only go to finals.
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| Quote ="christopher"It says that peaking at the right time is what matters in a competition that has a playoff system.'"
You are in the entertainment business - look at the crowds at Wigan how they dropped when negative style of rugby started by McGuire and continued with Wane was the norm. Despite winning GF's and CC's. Peaking maybe preferable if you want to win trophies but not so hot for entertainment and customer interest.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"You are in the entertainment business - look at the crowds at Wigan how they dropped when negative style of rugby started by McGuire and continued with Wane was the norm. Despite winning GF's and CC's. Peaking maybe preferable if you want to win trophies but not so hot for entertainment and customer interest.'"
So are you saying you would have preferred the club to have not won any trophies but played entertaining rugby (we did both for quite a lot of the seasons we won trophies by the way).
Winning finals and trophies is the end goal and one that brings money into the club don't forget.
We have been very very fortunate as Leeds fans to witness what we have over the last 15 years or so, yet still it doesn't seem good enough for some fans. Granted the seasons we won the title from 5th weren't the best we have played throughout a full season to but to denigrate the actual achievement of winning from 5th and the attitude of the teams that did that seems ridiculous.
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