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| Thought I’d just start the thread now cos will be confirmed tomorrow.
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| I would love to have a chat with Parcell and find out what his thoughts are, having played under Brian Mac and then a host of coaches it would be very interesting to find out where he thinks it all went wrong.
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| Isn't it as basic as the fact that he shines with a pack making good yardage and quick PTBs, and struggles when not (i.e. most of the time with Leeds)? Its not a disgrace to say that, nearly any hooker looks better under those circumstances.
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| He hasn't been getting game time this season at Leeds Dwyer got the gig this year and he left Wire because he wasnt getting game time there I wonder if we e got a big game hooker lined up for next season
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| Parcell and Garbutt were a good combination, he will do well at HKR.
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| Bit disappointing to lose Matt, but with the pack we have we couldn’t use him properly anyway.
Would be surprised if Lunt gets a playing contract for more than this year, we must be lining someone up for next season. Johnson has the potential to be great, but it’s early to expect him to be on the bench every week.
Much could depend on what happens with Myler in the off season as his wage could be key to getting another hooker in, assuming we’ve solved the scrum half problem.
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| Id expect someone to come in this year otherwise why release parcell now and not at season end?
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| Quote ="Trebor1"Id expect someone to come in this year otherwise why release parcell now and not at season end?'"
I suspect we have to release him as soon as there’s interest; he’s been “available” for ages but all the top sides have better hookers.
Steel yourselves re. Lunt; not impossible he may get a deal for 2020 as well as this year. We will still save a packet and free up that golden overseas quota spot regardless.
I would imagine with the 1 year deal for Dwyer, Lunt will be gone at the same time or before, meaning either we’ll go for a top line hooker then and/or expect Johnson to be ready by 2021. Options anyway,
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"I suspect we have to release him as soon as there’s interest; he’s been “available” for ages but all the top sides have better hookers.
Steel yourselves re. Lunt; not impossible he may get a deal for 2020 as well as this year. We will still save a packet and free up that golden overseas quota spot regardless.
I would imagine with the 1 year deal for Dwyer, Lunt will be gone at the same time or before, meaning either we’ll go for a top line hooker then and/or expect Johnson to be ready by 2021. Options anyway,'"
Yeah good points bud
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| Letting Parcell go to a relegation rival & getting another sick note has been better have a brilliant twist to it in our favour.
Not convinced by Sinfield whatsoever irrespective of what he inherited 1 good signing in 4/5 is shocking for a Club like ours imo.
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Letting Parcell go to a relegation rival & getting another sick note has been better have a brilliant twist to it in our favour.
Not convinced by Sinfield whatsoever irrespective of what he inherited 1 good signing in 4/5 is shocking for a Club like ours imo.'"
Hurrell, Merrin, Ava and getting rid of a waste of salary and quota in Tui for a decent half back not good signings?
Getting rid of Parcell for Lunt is not about us wanting Lunt, I know you’re not a fan of what KS is doing but we need a clearout and it’s happening and it will mean shifting quota spots and players on high salaries, I’m not sure you quite understand how difficult it will be to re set this squad. Has Sinfield made mistakes, yes, clearly Furner being the biggest, Im sure you will point to Ablett, Crosby snd JJB but you can’t blame Sinfield for them being injured and you haven’t got a clue what salaries they are on.
Parcell will be on a big salary and taking up a quota space which can be used more effectively elsewhere
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| Quote ="christopher"Hurrell, Merrin, Ava and getting rid of a waste of salary and quota in Tui for a decent half back not good signings?
Getting rid of Parcell for Lunt is not about us wanting Lunt, I know you’re not a fan of what KS is doing but we need a clearout and it’s happening and it will mean shifting quota spots and players on high salaries, I’m not sure you quite understand how difficult it will be to re set this squad. Has Sinfield made mistakes, yes, clearly Furner being the biggest, Im sure you will point to Ablett, Crosby snd JJB but you can’t blame Sinfield for them being injured and you haven’t got a clue what salaries they are on.
Parcell will be on a big salary and taking up a quota space which can be used more effectively elsewhere'"
I'm pretty certain Lunt's wage will be similar to Parcells so the saving will be for next year not this. He was our captain and in essence our marquee signing the year we got relegated and we placed our eggs in his basket. Unfortunate set of events has meant he's barely played last year and a cameo appearance this year. Will be interesting to see how he goes for you
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| Another thought on this, Lunt has signed for us but Parcell has gone on loan can he be recalled if Lunt gets injured?
And does this mean he can’t play against us?
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| Quote ="barham red"I'm pretty certain Lunt's wage will be similar to Parcells so the saving will be for next year not this. He was our captain and in essence our marquee signing the year we got relegated and we placed our eggs in his basket. Unfortunate set of events has meant he's barely played last year and a cameo appearance this year. Will be interesting to see how he goes for you'"
I'm not sure. At the time we signed Parcell we were desperate; Segeyaro had left us in the lurch and I would imagine we dangled a pretty big carrot to get Matt across here.
A good deal for both clubs in the circumstances.
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| Interesting few months ahead
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| Quote ="christopher"Another thought on this, Lunt has signed for us but Parcell has gone on loan can he be recalled if Lunt gets injured?
And does this mean he can’t play against us?'"
Both are Loan deals, hope they can play all games.
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| Quote ="barham red"Both are Loan deals, hope they can play all games.'"
Are they? Doesn’t read that way on our website?
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| Matt has been a scapegoat for the current management. He is a bloody good player. But has recently struggled with the absolute dross the club have put in front of him.
Feel bad for the guy
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Letting Parcell go to a relegation rival & getting another sick note has been better have a brilliant twist to it in our favour.
Not convinced by Sinfield whatsoever irrespective of what he inherited 1 good signing in 4/5 is shocking for a Club like ours imo.'"
He seems way out of his depth. Wanted to get rid off three perfectly good players in Garbutt, Keinhorst and Parcell this season yet keep Ablett and JJB.
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| Quote ="tenerifeRhino"He seems way out of his depth. Wanted to get rid off three perfectly good players in Garbutt, Keinhorst and Parcell this season yet keep Ablett and JJB.'"
Without any in depth knowledge on those players contracts you have no idea the reasons why but I can guess a few, and Garbutt and Keinhorst have really turned KR's season around haven't they, Garbutt has been injured and I believe Keinhorst dropped recently.
JJB this was always going to be his last year and I'm not sure you can blame Sinfield for Ablett being injured.
Parcell and Garbutt both count on our Quota which can be better utilised elsewhere.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"I'm not sure. At the time we signed Parcell we were desperate; Segeyaro had left us in the lurch and I would imagine we dangled a pretty big carrot to get Matt across here.
A good deal for both clubs in the circumstances.'"
I object, I had nothing to do with it
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| Quote ="tenerifeRhino"He seems way out of his depth. Wanted to get rid off three perfectly good players in Garbutt, Keinhorst and Parcell this season yet keep Ablett and JJB.'"
Didn't Keinhorst go before McDermott left? Don't think you can blame Sinfield for that one.
In regards to Parcell, I've heard he's one of the bad influences we wanted rid of in the changing room.
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| Quote ="christopher"Without any in depth knowledge on those players contracts you have no idea the reasons why but I can guess a few, and Garbutt and Keinhorst have really turned KR's season around haven't they, Garbutt has been injured and I believe Keinhorst dropped recently.
JJB this was always going to be his last year and I'm not sure you can blame Sinfield for Ablett being injured.
Parcell and Garbutt both count on our Quota which can be better utilised elsewhere.'"
A sensible post? No... Surely not. Not having it.
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| Quote ="Dirty Pretty Thing"Didn't Keinhorst go before McDermott left? Don't think you can blame Sinfield for that one.
In regards to Parcell, I've heard he's one of the bad influences we wanted rid of in the changing room.'"
He wasnt a popular team mate at Manly either IIRC. No smoke without fire.
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| Don't know what to say to people who think this is a good deal.
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