Okay i know we probably can't just get rid off all we want but in all honesty who would you keep at the club

Walker
Neuman
Watkins
Hurrel
Merrin
Dwyer (as interchange only)
Oledski

Thats it for me the rest can go and take Agar with them (useless every where he has been.)

How sad is it that once Leeds legends as J.J.B , Ablett and Cuthbo have been allowed to go on too long .

Sir Kev has taken on a mountain of a job as this has been a snowball building into an avalanche for a long time now but so far he has not covered himself in glory . In Sir Kev and the sleeve we trust ?

I'd keep
Walker
Watkins( give him a full year to try and recover from injury), Hurrell
Handley
Lolohea( get a good pre season with a disciplined coach to find him a position and weight loss routine if he doesn't improve I'd be looking to let him go).
Myler( get him a organiser to play with and let him help bring Mclelland through)
Parcell( possibly would release to free up a Quota spot)
Merrin
Ward( give him another season to see if he can put more than half a season together if not it might be time for him to retire for his own health)
Dwyer
Peteru ( as interchange prop)
Oldezki
Smith
Mclelland
Newman
Holroyd
Trout
Johnson
Dupree
Mustapha
Seamanufagai.

Bring in another metre making prop( personally would like someone like George Burgess coming in. Get a defensive back rower who can make 50-60 tackles a game someone like Shaun Fensom would have done, and get an organising half back to lead and direct us round the pitch ( personally want James Maloney to come)

Get a head coach in with top pedigree such and Shane Flanagan or Shaun Wane.

I think the only way of sorting unfortunately is to make big room on the cap. The only way of doing that, especially when waiting for contracts to run down, is to start with big earners. Merrin, and one of Watkins or Hurrell have to be at the forefront of that. We must find a way of getting out of Lolohea deal. We must try hard to get rid of failed players or without adequate long term promise, alla Ferris, Sutcliffe, Handley, Albert. We must under all circumstances find a half to fit in who can take the club forward.

Start by getting rid of the 'jobs for the boy's' mentality....the club has done ok without a director of Rugby for 150 years until the worst team seen by many came along..... at least 2 players on a contract to far..... ex players behind the scenes......the most uninspiring captain I have ever seen.

Id go with somthing like this, not realistic to do in one off season because we cant just dump players with contracts, but certainly doable over the next 2 offseasons.

Walker
New Winger
Watkins (give him nxt season to fully recover then make a decision )
Hurrell
New Winger
New Half
New Half
Ava
Dwyer
New Prop
Ward
New Second Row
Merrin (captain)

Johnson
Peteru
Oledski
Smith

Handley
Newman
Broadbent
McCllelland
Crosby
Singleton
Albert
Holroyd
Dupree
Trout
Muizz
Walters
McConnell
A Suttcliffe
Waite Pullan

Outs - Golding, Briscoe, Briscoe, Myler, Lolohea, Suttcliffe, Parcell, Cuthbertson, Ablett, JJB, Ferres....Loads of cap and 3 quota spots freed up. I feel both Marquees could be better spent so wouldnt be against a change there, but happy enough with both if better options arnt available.
6 in, 10 out

Jackson Hastings is an absolute must imo

Albert stays provided he's cheap and not on quota and because theres a reserves, Crosby and Singleton stay because of Quota aswel and as 5th/6th choice theyr not bad.

New coach...Flanagan , Wane, Powell or Demitriu....Any one of these with Marshall as assistant is good with me.

Big job ahead because no two ways about it the club is definitely in crisis. I agree with these behind the scenes jobs too.apart from Director of Rugby what does Agar`s job entail? " Head of player and coaching development "

I'd start by determining whether there are underlying issues behind the Bulls performance.

However bad we've been this season, this was the worst by some distance. Performances that just weren't good enough against the likes of SL should have been enough IMO.

My guess is that sacking Furner has intensified divisions in the team between different factions. The sacking was hardly going to motivate the Furner loyalists who are perhaps understandably uninspired by Agar (both marquee players were poor, and the new signings didn't have much impact either). They ALL looked like they were playing like a bunch of individuals. Even without Furner's systems, you'd expect the team to show some spirit, but very little was forthcoming.

Somehow they need to come together and start working for each other instead of going through the motions. A coach that can instill this is what we need. I think this may be what Sinfield has been getting at with his 'we're not a 4 from 14 club', but it looks easier fixed in theory than in reality.

I can't believe any of you would want to keep Merrin I know your stuck with him because of his contract but boy is he crap?
And that's where some of your problems lie, Other players are miffed he's getting more than them? Its got to upset the apple cart.

Anyone 22 or under that has a future, those that don’t or those older are on a case by case basis. Anyone over 30 can go. Rebuild this from the juniors with a sprinkling of leaders from outside, our current bunch have zero leadership qualities.

I’d also like to see GH retire, and Sinny admit he’s made some mistakes so far, then we can offload some baggage and move forwards.

Agree, people need to understand that a marquee player is someone who can make a difference, a clutch player who can win a game on his own. Merrin is just a plodder.

Walker
Watkins
Hurrell
Handley
Merrin
Oledzski
Dwyer
C.Smith
Seamanufagai
Petaru
Newman
Mclellend
I'd also keep all our promising youngsters.
We can all debate the odd name here and there but im sure we all agree the cull needed is a big one.

Merrin is a good player but he's really not what we need. To a degree Hurrell as well. Lolohea is just horrifically bad. If we need cap and qouta space I'd let Merrin return to Oz to get a halfback. Hurrell not sure, Lolohea I'd genuinely pay out whatever the cap implications.

I’d keep:
Walker
Watkins
Hurrell
Merrin
Ward
Oledzki
Smith
Dwyer
Newman
Golding
Plus the lads just up from the academy such as Trout etc

But that’s a lot of change. We’d need 2 wingers, 2 halves, at least 3 props, 2 second rowers and a hooker.

That obviously can’t be done quickly as not only can’t you get rid of players that quickly you can’t get players of the right quality and the right fit in that quickly. It would have to be done over say 3 years.

For the time being I’d put as many of the young lads in as are ready for first team. So I’d go with a team of:
1. Golding
2. Briscoe
3. Newman
4. Hurrell
5. Handley
6. McLelland
7. Myler
8. Peteru
9. Johnson
10. Oledzki
11. Merrin
12. Smith
13. Ward (he should be back soon)

14. Dwyer
15. Holroyd
16. Mustapha
17. Ava

Rotate Alex Sutcliffe and Trout in with Holroyd abs Mustapha.

Dwyer adds energy but is a bit schizo and unpredictable. If Parcell is not starting because Dwyers limited ability is keeping him out then we need rid and we might as well give a young lad a go.

Not many after yesterday's performance. I fully understand why people on here are saying McClennland is not ready, he's 12 months and more away from playing SL. We need two quality half backs as soon as possible and some quality experience in the pack. I give up we basically need a now team

I'd only let Merrin go if we get a quality pack enforcer/leader like Burgess/Graham type

This time around it looks like we are going have to keep more than we would like

It's not a case of who you keep but who you can get rid off. Not that easy, especially if in possession of a contract

It's a bit Fantasy Manager-ish but what the hell, I need something to make me smile. I'd keep.

Walker/ Golding as our two full backs. Both young and decent. They would have this position stitched up for 10 years+

I wouldn't keep any of our wingers. At a push Handley as back up.

I'd keep all 3 of our centres but I do have serious reservations about Watkins ability post knee injury. I fear he could be done.

I wouldn't keep any of our halfbacks.

Oledski, Peteru, Crosby, and Ava (just as we haven't seen him fit yet) and then the academy lads coming through.

I'd keep both hookers.

Ward, trout, sutty as cover across a multitude of positions.

Merrin and Smith as LFs.

Overall I think the front row is getting addressed but we have very little in the 2nd row and no halfbacks that can control/run/grab by the scruff of the neck a game and that is what is hurting us most (but not only).

I would not add any players under 21 in the equation at all as most are still academy player, with exeption of oledski. But he is keeper regardless

Walker, fine but he will be off first chance he gets.

Golding clearly not wanted regardless and do we need two fullbacks.

Handley, Keep, better than people give him credit getting singled out when theire are bigger issues.
Briscoe, get rid under performer full stop.
Hurrel Keep
Watkins not going anywhere regardless, but looks finushed at centre and not sure will ever regain previous firm, not sure he is second rower.
Lolohea. Get rid sub standard coward.
Myler needs a poper halh back partner we mush him when he dies not play adds more than given credit for.
Sutcliffe, given too many chances too many positions time to cut loose.
Cuthbo a favourite of mine but just not cutting the mustard. Buck up or out.
Singleton , out poor player
Albert one year only anyway not done enough to renew.
Ava. Too early to judge but long term contract anyway.
Peteru, out seen enough now nit good enough.
Crosby out, not played a game anyway, thats not a good sign.
Ablett see above clearly finished.
JJB retirement anyway.
Ferres out. No need to elaborate.
Merrin keep
Donaldson keep, cheap plays above his weight and one of the only players showing bottle.
Cameron smith. Keep Still young and shows glimpses but needs to do more
Ward get rid too injury prone not worth the risk anymore.
Dywer keep, been our best player, no world beater but currently one of best 3-4 hookers in league in a losing side
Parcell get rid, looks not interested.

Whole squad wants putting on performance rewiew, any body can be sacked if not meeting required standard in any job. Contract or not.

JJB
Ablett
Cuthbertson
Ferres
Myler
Briscoe
Singleton

I'd start by trying to get rid of as many of the above as possible first. Obviously easier said than done.

I will probably get slated for this but I much prefer Parcell as starting hooker, let Dwyer come on in the later stages, not sure he knows what he is going to do next so how the hell are our halves supposed to ??? Player of the season so far

Warrington got rid for a reason

Dwyer stands out at times because most the rest are so poor. I'm not knocking the lad because he is at least having a dig when others clearly aren't but long term he is not the starting hooker of a team looking for the top end of the table.good impact player

Wakefield fan in peace.

If I can add something, when recruiting players, a leader is needed in my opinion.
Clearly a good coach will make a difference but Leeds look rudderless to me.
It doesn't have to be a young guy for the future, just someone who can lead the team until the recruitment is sorted.
Non of the senior players have the leadership side of the game so it needs to be brought in.

It would be impossible to get rid of everyone who needs to go

Hanley and Briscoe are not great wingers
Hurrell is decent but Makes lots of errors wouldn’t be upset if he left with the money he is on is freed up
Lolohia needs sacking
Myler crap
Sutcliffe crap as half or back row
Singleton Crosby Albert, cuthbertson need to go
Ablett, JJB, Ferres, all poor
Cam smith is popular on here but he’s been poor whenever he gets a chance
Merrin again a plodder but decent again wouldn’t be too bothered if he left

To be fair to some of the younger players like Cameron Smith (and Walker), they are supposed to be learning to get better, from playing regularly and alongside more experienced players. Instead they are being sucked into the mire of mediocrity by us having basically half a team of duffers and no halfbacks.

I think this year we've been so terrible that we need to be imaginative in terms of the squad going forward. If cleaning the place out means having some of our cap spent on players on loan elsewhere sobeit. The bad influences have to be got rid of regardless of cost, and the utterly useless as well. Get them away from the club and focus on the juniors. That means accepting that next season will again be a struggle, but if its a struggle where our juniors are getting experience and actually competing then it will be better in the long run than another season of this garbage.