After castleford perfromance on Thursday Powell will have them up for this and it could be a messy night.

Yes but that’s no excuse, we are desperate for points more than Cas are and we should be up for it too.

I think we’ll win.

Another defeat on the cards. Interested to see how quickly lolohea returns and if he sticks to dropping players regarding ferres. Worryingly the realisation of where tui is further shows how a team that's meant to be rebuilding is actually further away than last year.

A must win game for both sides.

Actually I agree with dropping Ferres, he’s been Golden Balls too long but gives stupid penalties away every freakin match.

Can’t see Lolohea getting in when the side played better without him. Bench maybe?

We’ll have picked up a knock or two today so fitness might have some bearing, short turnaround.

Cas won’t stop playing against us so we are going to have to establish a lead and keep pushing.

Wonder if they can start 'nailing those moments' like Furner has mentioned again in his press conference. Same comments every week and no improvement.

Expect to see Sutcliffe and Myler again next week judging by Furners comments in the press conference after today’s game

Same players on the whole mate, good intentions and all that.
We could do with Crosby fit. Growing argument for McLelland in at half back.
We have to start getting runners around Merrin, where is Dwyer, Walker or the halves?

Well, Sutcliffe out of the pack is a plus for me.

thought he did ok at 6. million miles better than fat boy

Golding for Briscoe, McLelland for Myler
Trout for Ferres and Holroyd for JJB.
Is Lineham available as he's not getting a game at Wire?
And Kasiano is just the sort of forward we needed.

What did he say?

The way Cas play to their left wing against our right hand side defence it could be a looooooong night. If Yaha gets 4 I think Eden could beat that.

Can't see anything but a heavy loss to be honest with you but I thought there was some positive signs v Catalans.

They don’t even need to pass it though. Just simply put any type of kick there and a Briscoe will give them the try anyway. Never seen a player so scared of catching a ball.

I've never seen a winger with so little protection either. Every time a high kick goes up we stand still and allow opposition free reign to compete for the ball. It happened all last yr and all this.

Playing wing or full back for this team is not only bad for your confidence it's bad for your health. Just lazy from some guys on the team.

Marty, whilst it is a fair point on protection, it isn’t an excuse. Every single type of kick, in any situation, the guy poops himself. He doesn’t attempt to catch the ball. He really has a mental problem with kicks, and it is damaging.

In a weird way Cas at home's a bit of a free kick for Furner as they've beaten us too easily for several seasons. If I was him I'd use this game as a chance to experiment a bit.

The problem with persevering with the bulk of the squad for too long is then you leave yourself no time to take a gamble. BM kept on doubling down last year and it cost him his job. There are far too few players in the squad who respond to adversity with fight. Most of them just keep on crumbling and making the same mistakes every week.

Agreed

Despite losing we were much improved against Catalan. I would go for the same line up, with the exception of Ferres who I expect to be banned.

There will be changes for Thursday, half of our bench was non effective, as soon as the replacements were made we went backwards. No doubt Furner will keep to his usual trick of sending a couple of players to Fev as part of the bad boys club, lol, Ferres will be banned, there is nowt between his ears, Bisco wants a taxi to Fev to play with Luke, he is simply busted, how Ash Golding cannot get in this team on the wing is beyond a joke. After Thursday a third of the season has gone, if we lose Furner has to go, no ifs or buts he has to go, the reality of relegation comes in and the massive drop in revenue if relaxation happens is not worth thinking about, GH and Caddick will / cannot let relegation happen and if we lose on Thursday the next game becomes a must win game, then the game after etc, if some players are in Last chance saloon then so is Furner.
Only way to beat Castleford is attack Eden at every opportunity, he had a mare of a game last week, he's as bad as Bisco, busted

I agree about the bench, but not sure who we could bring in? Cuthbertson, Ablett and Crosby are all injured.

Not a world-beater by any means but based on what I've seen so far this season Donaldson offers far more on attack and defence than JJB. Not sure what he's bringing to the side for all his experience.

Hopefully Ablett will make more of an impact. Not so long ago he had the power to change the direction of a game, but it will be a big ask after a long injury lay-off.

Not really a fair comment. JJB has only featured in 2 games off the bench so far with a total of 79 minutes. The first of these he was clearly not match fit and he is covering the tough central defending prop position and he didn't shirk tackling big Kasiano last night. The work rate of the two players is very similar but while JJB has made zero errors and no penalties, Donaldson has made 2 errors and 4 penalties.

JJB's match fitness after a long injury lay off will only improve as he gets more minutes. Of course he is way past his best but there are quite a number of players to blame for our defeat last night before JJB.

Whether JJB or Donaldson is better shouldn't be up for debate. Neither should be in the Leeds playing squad.

or ablett!