As above.

He wlll go down in history as Leeds greatest coach much to the delight of the usual suspects on this forum.

I've only been following Leeds for 20 years, but struggle to think of a coach during that time that didn't attract criticism, including from myself. It is the way of things, I like to think that the majority of critiism is borne out of passion for the club and the game. But some of vitriol aimed at BM, has IMO overstepped those bounds. He is a flawed individual, but so are we all and I wonder how long some of the armchair assasins would be able to stand up to the level pressure, criticism and abuse BM has stood upto.

Do I always agree with his coaching decisions? No
Do I always understand why he does certain things? No
Will I ever do either of the above? Unlikely

Do I respect his integrity and record? Yes

I will still feel the need to criticise at times, but he's done a tremendous job at Leeds over the years and even those (like me) who haven't been his most ardent followers, should acknowledge that.

Spot on.

Funny that over the last 18 months for backing the guy I've been called moron, stupid, idiot, deluded, brown noser, apologist and mocked about "excuses" in 2016 by those who know best on here.

Well I have followed Leeds for almost 60 years and you are right all coaches get criticised with much of it unfair and borne out of frustration. Having done a bit of coaching and managing I am only too aware of the view from the other side and so always try to allow coaches a great deal of benefit of the doubt because there are always other factors that the public are not awares of.

Nothing wrong with being critical as all coaches make mistakes but the personal abuse Mac has had to endure is way too much and way out of order and as others have said his record deserves nothing but respect. That he has overcome the constant sniping and backed himself and his players which says so much for his honest integrity. In getting this team to another GF without major recruitment and with several old stagers is some feat when you think where we were last year.
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So very well done Brian and take a bow whether we win or not next week

Nothing to do with Barrie Mac
Well done Sinfield and Peacock for masterminding another trip to OT (s)

I'm not much of one for stats...I assume in terms of finals and trophies etc there's now a huge gap between BMcD and anyone else at Leeds...?

Also how does he compare as all time SL most successful coaches?

Oh also for all the he was lucky with JP, Sinny etc...has any one ever heard owt but praise for BMcD from the golden generation (even retired players who are now free to say what they like?). In some ways managing a team of legends is harder (player power n all that) and yet BMcD has now reached GFs both twith both that and building a fresh side, no mean feat.

yeah he probably will.

Still think its time for change win or lose next week.

we could do the treble every year and it would still be Muzza (r.i.p) for me.

Attackwise Smiths 2004 & early 2005 side blessed with bai, ali, senior , danny best to watch

I'm an outsider but B M always seem honest and passionate. What you have achieved in the 2017 season after the 2016 season I find remarkable .
I doubt very much that Warrington will bounce back like Leeds have. Your clubs reached another final in my view against the odds and all the best for the final game of the season. Just as a matter of interest how do you think you will frame next season because I see that as another massive test .

Cas fan in piece. I felt a little emotional after watching his after match interview. He needs so much credit for how he has turned you around. He still recieves crap from many though.

Seriously ? Just out of interest any reason in particular ?

His Trophy record is 2nd to none & he absolutely deserves plenty of plaudits just as he ,the Team & GH should be questioned/criticised when it goes wrong.

Even I wouldn't say he's the best coach ever, my thing is his deserves way more respect and credit than he does get.

The above post, yes he should get questioned and criticised when things go wrong but we all know really that it goes far far beyond well reasoned questioning and critique.

That's a fair point.

Big Mac has also taken flack off myself but that sky interview WOW! How passionate is the guy in Leeds rhinos. Onto next week I don't see how we can over turn the recent Cas results and win but the man deserves plaudits for the way people have questioned him whenever we don't like a certain result. FWIW whatever next week brings it should bring down the curtain for his rhinos tenure as i feel it needs freshening up. If it does a BIG thank you Brian.

Just seen the trailer for the "As good as it gets" documentary film (actually first I'd heard about it). Wonder if that might finally convert a few BMac haters... www.thecitytalking.com/as-good-as-it-gets/

Just seen the trailer for the "As good as it gets" documentary film (actually first I'd heard about it). Wonder if that might finally convert a few BMac haters... www.thecitytalking.com/as-good-as-it-gets/

Quote ="Omar Little"Just seen the trailer for the "As good as it gets" documentary film (actually first I'd heard about it). Wonder if that might finally convert a few BMac haters... www.thecitytalking.com/as-good-as-it-gets/'" I saw this too earlier. Really looking forward to seeing the full feature.

Quote ="Omar Little"Just seen the trailer for the "As good as it gets" documentary film (actually first I'd heard about it). Wonder if that might finally convert a few BMac haters... www.thecitytalking.com/as-good-as-it-gets/'" I saw this too earlier. Really looking forward to seeing the full feature.

Quote ="Omar Little"Just seen the trailer for the "As good as it gets" documentary film (actually first I'd heard about it). Wonder if that might finally convert a few BMac haters... www.thecitytalking.com/as-good-as-it-gets/'" Probably won't convert them but I'm looking forward to it. Looks like a more personal in depth look than the club friendly generic responses interviews in the Golden Generation DVD the club did a couple of years ago.

Quote ="Omar Little"Just seen the trailer for the "As good as it gets" documentary film (actually first I'd heard about it). Wonder if that might finally convert a few BMac haters... www.thecitytalking.com/as-good-as-it-gets/'" Probably won't convert them but I'm looking forward to it. Looks like a more personal in depth look than the club friendly generic responses interviews in the Golden Generation DVD the club did a couple of years ago.

Ditto !



< edit > actually i've been called most of those, and more, for years. Sucks to be a Leeds fan on Southstander.

Glad to see a thread like this. I've always been in the Mac camp. Still am.

Supporters of other teams must think Leeds fans are mad for wanting McDermott out given the success we have had under him. It really is bizarre how unpopular he is.

Ive never been a huge McDermott out man but i must admit ive called for change this season saying his time was up and yet here we are at the last dance again.

Hes a polarising figure thats for sure and i think he likes that. He rarely engages with fans but thats just his way. It hard at this moment in time to argue with his record thats without doubt.

Firstly, having witnessed how emotional he was after the game, no-one could possibly doubt how much he cares about the club, the players and achieving the overall collective goal. In my opinion, the more you care, the more successful you will be.

I am not his greatest fan as a coach but I have never seen the need to attack him personally and to vilify him. To those that have, shame on you, because he is clearly a genuinely decent person.

The results over the last few years have been at best inconsistent and, at worst, woeful. Furthermore, given the players he has had at his disposal, the number of truly convincing performances achieved during his tenure has been disappointing. However, you cannot argue with results and he has achieved in that department.

maybe McD was choked up because he had just been told the Grand final will be his last game as coach of the Rhino's? Just putting it out there