Most inept display by a Leeds winger for a long while that (Joe Vickery included) Shadow of his former self, wasnt even jumping for those high balls in the second half.

What's happened to him?

He was told not to jump in the second half, and that was clear for all to see. He should have been told to grow some balls, get his head out of his backside, focus, and do his job. But the decision to tell him to not jump and take the player destroyed him and made it far worse. Stupid stupid advice.

That bad i almost feel a bit sorry for him, should have been withdrawn after early scare with Lilley to half moon centre and keinhorst wing for me but Never happened. He Needs dropping asap, put keinhorst on wing for now we can't keep hoping Tom will snap out of this form or come good its only going to get worse.

I do wonder if that is possibly the last time we will see him in a Leeds shirt.

When Fonua was outjumped by Hall, for the rest of the game anytime a kick went up Hull 'congested that area not allowing Hall a free run. Your protection of Briscoe was pathetic considering Sneyd time and time again was putting it on a sixpence.

He had a shocker but I've seen worse than that, although maybe not in recent years.

It is hard to understand it, since being injured he seems to have lost all confidence and even his timing seems to way off. Interestingly, he outpaced Fonua to McGuire's kick and McGuire obviously thought he could. To me, in general play, he has looked like he is playing with lead boots at times.

He needs someone to coach him back and I can't see that happening at Leeds. Yesterday and for all of the season, he has been left completely exposed. McGuire is defending inside him and he lacks the physical presence to help him out. In addition, where were are the cover defenders to get around him? The difference between the two teams on kick defence yesterday was marked.

How do you know what he was told to do in the second half? Or is this just your opinion?

It was clear anyway. But I spoke to specifically to a player after game, having had a go about Briscoe not jumping, and he said that was the instruction to get round the loss of confidence at half time.

Can't blame Briscoe. Was all McDermotts fault not sorting it out at half time.

Sneyd was allowed all the time in the world to place his kick wherever he wanted then Briscoe was left to deal with 2 or three on rushing attackers with no support from a standing start.

Brett wasn't any better than Tom. I still fail to see how he was a good purchase for the club. Gave away two tries yesterday. Fair play to Hull though they wanted it more than Leeds

hmmmmm whats that smell? I am sure players where very keen to come out and have a chat with the fans after a heavy defeat and tell somebody absolute crap like that.

When I took the players wife with me and family to game, yes they would be willing to have a chat.

Have it on just about the best authority you can get that TB's shoulders have gone. He can't lift his arms fully over a certain height. Leeds are actively searching for a replacement because he is done. Most frustrating part of this for me is that they have known for a while, but kept playing him. He is and will continue to be a liability on that wing.

his replacement is a world class young winger 20 miles away at wakefield. sadly, and this is where I have sympathy with brian, GH prefers to shop at aldi rather than waitrose. expect a cheap signing

This is absolutely spot on. The players inside Briscoe are offering no help at all and think when a kick is in the air think it's time for a breather. Yes ultimately it's Briscoe's responsibility to catch the ball but do we ever put kickers under pressure? Do we ever protect the catcher so he gets a clean catch at it? Week in and week out this is happening and costing us points and nothing is ever done.

Briscoe will rightly take stick for his performance and his lack of confidence means he has to be left out for a while now but other players have to do their jobs too.

Fair play to Hull for being relentless in executing a plan we all knew was coming by the way. Think that's called coaching.

firstly yes it has happened all year and secondly you are wrong. one person didn't see it coming. our brian

Is it not a simple case of 'karma' coming home to roost.....the 'judas' syndrome in all it's glory.

he served hull well for years. he didn't leave under a cloud either

firstly it was talanoa he beat in the footrace not fonua, he played well for us and imo no problem going to his hometown team, looks short of confidence and cert didn't get no protection from his teammates yest, if its true about his shoulder then that's pretty bad, hope it isn't and he gets his confidence back, always liked tom, apart from when he plays us of course, Plus them 5 tries well you gotta love him,

I am sure that was not the full instructions to Briscoe. I do not think he was told not to tackle either!

Was this player in the team against Hull yesterday?

No it is what is called players sticking to the game plan.

In the first 30 minutes we stuck to our game plan and ran at Kelly and kicked to the dangerous winger and it worked. Once Hull started to dominate our pack we fell away from the game plan as we lacked field position.

Too easy to blame the coach when the players fail to perform.

Yes, and I do not know if he was told to not tackle, so not sure what you are saying there. But in response to me saying why the hell did he not jump, the response was he was told not to at half time and just go for the player attacking.

and you are always to quick to absolve the coach of any blame.
he could, and should, then have made adjustments as things unfolded. but he didn't.

So what's supposed to happen when that "gameplan" goes awry are there not meant to other "options or alternative plans"?

Whatever his instructions and however badly he played neither Briscoe nor Mac were the reasons for the second half one way traffic. The big Hull pack were just too dominant and Sneyd was given the time and field position to pin us down on our line which sapped our energy.