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| Just putting this in here for next week. Hoping Golding & Keinhorst are not too bad, expecting Delaney to be back in the 19 also. If Golding & Keinhorst are not fit my guess:
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Briscoe Watkins Moon Hall
McGuire Burrow
Baldwinson Parcell Cuthbertson
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Delaney Garbutt Mullally Ward/Walters/Oledzki
Wigan possibly missing all these players:
‪Tierney, Burgess, Manfredi, Tomkins, Shorrocks, Farrell, Farrell, McIllorum, Bateman, Sutton, Well, Oloughlin, Gelling, Flower.
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| Ward should be back next week
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| McDermott confirms Delaney, Ward, Keinhorst & Golding should all be ok for next week.
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| Interesting score line from Wigan. They were 22-0 down after 60 which suggests they are just struggling at the moment but they then did manage a late rally helped by Hull doing their best to chuck it away it seems.
Much depends on how many guys (if any) they get back for next week, Gelling & Flower joining the list tonight only makes things harder for them. Whilst we were dodgy tonight at times it was away at one of our recently historically trickier away venues. With next week being at Headingley where we've looked confident the last few games I think we'll get the win.
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| Watching the Hull tries, some of the Wigan tackling was woeful. Can't expect they will be that bad next week though
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| From the Wigan board...
"Wane saying post-match that Gelling could still play next week, and potentially Gildart, Faz and Sutton returning so some good news at least."
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| Im still very weary it wasn't that long ago they came to HQ with a full pack missing & put 50 on us plus we had a better team playing then aswell.
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| A dark day indeed.
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Im still very weary it wasn't that long ago they came to HQ with a full pack missing & put 50 on us plus we had a better team playing then aswell.'"
You're right to be wary, the more players wigan have missing, the better they seem to play against us.
That said, if - big if - we win, I'm looking at the table wondering which four teams are nailed on to finish above us. I can make a case for two or three but not four.
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| I wouldn't rule out St Helens from the top four just yet. Wigan, Cas and Hull should make the top four I suppose.
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| Quote ="chapylad"I wouldn't rule out St Helens from the top four just yet. Wigan, Cas and Hull should make the top four I suppose.'"
I'd agree that the last three seem likely. really not sure how much can be read into saints beating wire. Bit like our last three games where you're not quite sure how much the opposition's deficiencies have been a factor.
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| It will be a good test of where Leeds are at - I suspect Wane will have them properly motivated so should be a good game
I think Wigan might be too strong even with a host of injuries - Wigan by 10
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Im still very weary it wasn't that long ago they came to HQ with a full pack missing & put 50 on us plus we had a better team playing then aswell.'"
That was 2012 in Wane's first season, should be pointed out that since then his record at Headingley in 0 wins from 5.
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| Record at Headingley since they demolished us in 2012
2013...18-14
2014...28-12
2015...26-14
2015...25-18 Super 8's
2016...18-16
Can really pretty much see a similar score line, us around low 20's, them low teens.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"It will be a good test of where Leeds are at - I suspect Wane will have them properly motivated so should be a good game
I think Wigan might be too strong even with a host of injuries - Wigan by 10'"
True but by the same token i would expect Leeds to be very motivated and be seeing this as a big test and chance to show their worth at home against the champions.
I think Wigan are a at least a couple of scores better than us with a near full strength team but with a few out and home advantage i fancy us to nick it.
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| The ref will be Ben Thaler.
Wasn't he in charge in the last game against the Giants?
The one where Ablett was sin-binned for being punched by Brough for which he has been found "not guilty" of any wrongdoing whereas Brough is up on a charge of punching.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"True but by the same token i would expect Leeds to be very motivated and be seeing this as a big test and chance to show their worth at home against the champions.
I think Wigan are a at least a couple of scores better than us with a near full strength team but with a few out and home advantage i fancy us to nick it.'"
Fair point - Leeds should go into the game with confidence after the last few weeks so it should be a good game
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| Liam Farrell has a chance of making it this week apparently.
Other news from them is that McIlorum could finally be back next week or the week after. Sam Tomkins might be facing an extra 6-8 weeks though.
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| I'm not overly fearful of any side in SL. I dont think any are that good. Gas can blow teams away and look great but the one time they have actually been pushed they came up short. Wigan have a system that players can slot in and out of and great strength in depth but aren't a great side. Hull are decent but not great. Outside that is a selection of pretty poor sides.
My worry is that we look brittle. 5 from 7 is obviously a great return but as soon as cas stepped up we went to pieces, something that happened a lot last year too.
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| Meh, we took spankings in our title winnings seasons too. I recall a month before the 2012 GF, Hudds put 48 points past us even though they played with 12 men for nearly 70 minutes.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Meh, we took spankings in our title winnings seasons too. I recall a month before the 2012 GF, Hudds put 48 points past us even though they played with 12 men for nearly 70 minutes.'"
That worra long trudge to the car!
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| IIRC, not a lot was riding on the Huddersfield game in question. It being a dead rubber doesn't excuse Leeds being abject for the opening seventy - romped the last ten trying to make the score respectable.
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| Could have been Giants been better/ more hungry than us on the day. Alternatively BM & GH wanting us to come through the game unscathed with an eye on the forthcoming matches.
Turned out well anyroads.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"I'm not overly fearful of any side in SL. I dont think any are that good. Gas can blow teams away and look great but the one time they have actually been pushed they came up short. Wigan have a system that players can slot in and out of and great strength in depth but aren't a great side. Hull are decent but not great. Outside that is a selection of pretty poor sides.
My worry is that we look brittle. 5 from 7 is obviously a great return but as soon as cas stepped up we went to pieces, something that happened a lot last year too.'"
Agree with pretty much every comment on this thread, but how can you say no SL team is any good? Aside from what would appear an off day in Salford, Cas have ripped teams apart with some of the best attacking rugby in the SL for years. And Wigan have yet to field anywhere near a full time so far and still up the top end and won WCC.
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| Quote ="WARRIOR5"Agree with pretty much every comment on this thread, but how can you say no SL team is any good? Aside from what would appear an off day in Salford, Cas have ripped teams apart with some of the best attacking rugby in the SL for years. And Wigan have yet to field anywhere near a full time so far and still up the top end and won WCC.
Wigan fan.'"
For the reasons i gave. I mean, we are 3rd. Its hardly a high quality league.
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