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| JJB charged with Grade A Dangerous Contact. He has no EGP, so likley to face a 1 or 2 match ban.
Carney up on Grade C contact with a match official, again no EGP available.
Both likely to miss this week's game I'd have thought.
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| Is that the one where Pelissier hurt his neck? Seemed just an accident.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Is that the one where Pelissier hurt his neck? Seemed just an accident.'"
No charge for that one. The one he's up for was one on Higson in the 44th minute, twisting one of his limbs or the like.
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| Can't remember it off the top of my head. But given he has no EGP JJB will probably get a game.
Also think Carney has some defence, in that I don't see why Child got so close to him, but reckon he'll get a ban anyway.
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| I thought carney was at fault. you should never raise your arm to a ref like that. shame child didn't have the balls to deal with it
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| Quote ="tad rhino"I thought carney was at fault. you should never raise your arm to a ref like that. shame child didn't have the balls to deal with it'"
Didn't do anything about Hardaker in 2014 either.
Perhaps he's comfortable with his non-confrontational personality and style?
Good for him if that's the case.
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| Quote ="William Eve"Didn't do anything about Hardaker in 2014 either.
Perhaps he's comfortable with his non-confrontational personality and style?
Good for him if that's the case.'"
It's not 'good for him'.....it's his job to deal with the players, failing to do so isn't a good thing.
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| exactly. you need backbone to do it. he obviously hasn't any
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| Judging by that that'll be Galloway, Delaney, JJB, Ferres out. Hopefully Moon has recovered from the concussion he got for this week.
Golding; Briscoe Watkins Moon Hall; McGuire Burrow; Singleton Parcell Garbutt; Ablett Keinhorst; Ward. Cuthbertson Sutcliffe Baldwinson Mullally/Ormondroyd/Walters.
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| Thought an A was a fine?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Thought an A was a fine?'"
Isn't it 0-1 games. So he could still be available.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"It's not 'good for him'.....it's his job to deal with the players, failing to do so isn't a good thing.'"
Put the straw away.
It really isn't a mandatory part of the job of any referee to be confrontational.
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| Quote ="William Eve"Put the straw away.
It really isn't a mandatory part of the job of any referee to be confrontational.'"
The ref using his yellow and red cards for verbal abuse or physical contact towards him isn't confrontational......it's him doing his job correctly.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Judging by that that'll be Galloway, Delaney, JJB, Ferres out. Hopefully Moon has recovered from the concussion he got for this week.
Golding; Briscoe Watkins Moon Hall; McGuire Burrow; Singleton Parcell Garbutt; Ablett Keinhorst; Ward. Cuthbertson Sutcliffe Baldwinson Mullally/Ormondroyd/Walters.'"
For me this is one of the fixtures id hope to see Ormondroyd Mullally & or Baldwinson get at least 20/30 minutes gametime in we know we're gonna get injuries so lets at least prove some lessons have been learnt.
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| Quote ="William Eve"Put the straw away.
It really isn't a mandatory part of the job of any referee to be confrontational.'"
only person who mentioned confrontation was you my old pal.
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| If JJB's out:
Golding
Briscoe Watkins Moon Hall
McGuire Burrow
Singleton Parcell Garbutt
Ward Ablett
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Cuthbertson Keinhorst Ormondroyd Baldwinson
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"The ref using his yellow and red cards for verbal abuse or physical contact towards him isn't confrontational......it's him doing his job correctly.'"
Apart from Gareth Hock, how many other players have been yellow carded or sent off for abusing the ref or physically touching them? Was Ryan Bailey sent off for pushing Silverwood in 2012? Yet the majority on this forum were in uproar when he ended up getting a three-match ban for it. Opinions on refs doing their job correctly does rather depend upon the player in question and which club he plays for.
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| now that I agree.
with regards to baileys, silverwood, for some reason, took to standing in the defensive line. a few players ended up being obstructed by him. baileys was not intentional, I was sat right above it.
IIRC eventually whoever was the refs boss at the time, possibly cummings, came out and told him to stand where he should have, not in the line.
hocks just a dick
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| Quote ="tad rhino"with regards to baileys, silverwood, for some reason, took to standing in the defensive line. a few players ended up being obstructed by him. baileys was not intentional, I was sat right above it.'"
Your view from above must have been impeded then because... [url=http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/leeds-rhinos/leeds-rhinos-will-not-appeal-bailey-s-ban-1-4342218/amp[uBailey admitted to the offence and the club agreed with the three match ban[/u[/url.
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| Quote ="William Eve"Apart from Gareth Hock, how many other players have been yellow carded or sent off for abusing the ref or physically touching them?'"
Not any that I can remember but that just means that other refs are failing too, we are starting to see more of these ref contact charges coming up. Maybe if they start using their cards instead of bottling it and leaving it to the disciplinary then we'd see less or will we have to wait until you see a Paulo Di Canio moment.
Do you think players should stay on the pitch for contact with the official???
Quote ="William Eve"Was Ryan Bailey sent off for pushing Silverwood in 2012? Yet the majority on this forum were in uproar when he ended up getting a three-match ban for it. Opinions on refs doing their job correctly does rather depend upon the player in question and which club he plays for.'"
If he was unhappy with the contact Bailey made on him then yes he should've carded him. Would I have agreed with it, no but that's because on that occasion the ref was at fault imo for getting himself into a stupid position as the ball was being played which is a much different scenario to the likes of Carney, Hock or Charnley e other year who just sulked about a decision.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Isn't it 0-1 games. So he could still be available.'"
Usually it is a fine when you have an EGP, but with the charge a dangerous throw, JJB already serving a fine, suspension and losing his EGP this pre season, is expect the top end of the charge.
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Quote ="Frosties."Usually it is a fine when you have an EGP, but with the charge a dangerous throw, JJB already serving a fine, suspension and losing his EGP this pre season, is expect the top end of the charge.'"
He's not being charged for a dangerous throw
www.rugby-league.com/the_rfl/disciplinary
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He's not being charged for a dangerous throw
www.rugby-league.com/the_rfl/disciplinary
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Not any that I can remember but that just means that other refs are failing too, we are starting to see more of these ref contact charges coming up. Maybe if they start using their cards instead of bottling it and leaving it to the disciplinary then we'd see less or will we have to wait until you see a Paulo Di Canio moment.
Do you think players should stay on the pitch for contact with the official???'"
I'd say that depends upon the degree of aggression and intent involved. There needs to be a common sense approach because it got ridiculous last season in the NRL.
Sam McKendry ended up with a one game ban for [url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/sport/video-1284093/Panthers-prop-Sam-McKendry-latest-NRL-player-touch-referee.html[uTHIS[/u[/url... and Tyson Frizell one match ban for [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KHqMeSAuMw[uTHIS[/u[/url.
Quote ="ThePrinter"If he was unhappy with the contact Bailey made on him then yes he should've carded him. Would I have agreed with it, no but that's because on that occasion the ref was at fault imo for getting himself into a stupid position as the ball was being played...'"
You might be getting mixed up with the Brent Webb incident just before? Bailey intentionally pushed Silverwood out of the way and admitted the offence and the club also backed the RFL over the three match ban.
There's a lot of pressure on refs not to send players off unless an offence is clear cut and there's no other option, hence why most are placed on report instead.
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| At the time I remember thinking 3 games for Bailey was harsh. Yes he pushed the ref, but Silverwood was in the wrong place, it was goal line defence and I think Bailey felt it stopped him making a tackle which lead to a try. It was imo, Silverwoods fault, and while they need protecting I thought this was as accidental/justifiable as it came.
Seem to remember Bailey then giving Silverwood a load of guff, which I thought was worth a ban but not three matches.
The Frizell one was ridiculous. The Carney one is weird, yes he puts his arm up, but I wouldn't call it agressive. I have no idea what Child was doing or why he was so close, particularly when refs tend to always keep players at arms length, even when talking to captains etc. Again I'd think one game is fair, but going on recent precedent it's likely to be more.
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| If Carney is out then i guess we'd line up like this..
O'brien
Evalds
Sau
Whelham
Johnson
Lui
Dobson
Kopzcak
Tomkins
Mossop
Griffin
Jones
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