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| He reckons [url=http://www.totalrl.com/garry-schofield-my-super-league-predictions/[uLeeds will finish 6th[/u[/url.
However, his prediction was most likely made last week, as he says... [i"They’ll improve a bit, even without bringing anyone new in. Rumours of James Segeyaro leaving were worrying, because they really need to keep him, so it was good to see Gary Hetherington confirm that he will stay with the Rhinos"[/i
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| Quote ="William Eve"He reckons [url=http://www.totalrl.com/garry-schofield-my-super-league-predictions/[uLeeds will finish 6th[/u[/url.
However, his prediction was most likely made last week, as he says... [i"They’ll improve a bit, even without bringing anyone new in. Rumours of James Segeyaro leaving were worrying, because they really need to keep him, so it was good to see Gary Hetherington confirm that he will stay with the Rhinos"[/i'"
His table looks similar to how i would have it. Leeds at 6th as things stand seems reasonable, it's really hard to make a case for much higher than 5th or 6th unless you are in complete denial.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"His table looks similar to how i would have it. Leeds at 6th as things stand seems reasonable, it's really hard to make a case for much higher than 5th or 6th unless you are in complete denial.'"
No amount of tinkering or emphasis on defence can alter the fact that Leeds current spine of 1,6,7 and 9 is awful... Golding, Sutcliffe, Lilley, Stretcher Boy (who will probably miss half the season) and Burrow.
As always, Leeds fate is also dependent upon the rest of the SL competition, which, for the most part is also pants. But the majority of them do appear to employ a better spine than Leeds.
If there are no additions to the current squad, I'm thinking lower, around 8th to 10th.
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| 6th seems about right, with a bit of fluidity up and down for keeping/replacing Segeyaro, as well as whether other teams improve or drop.
Can't see us in the middle eights again, but think we'll have a real scrap for top 4.
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| It's so difficult to predict the form of a lot of teams in the league. Most do 180 degree turnarounds every season.
Agree that our position depends on other teams, our fate is definitely not in our own hands as the squad simply isn't good enough.
6th seems most plausible but I would not be surprised to see us 3rd or 4th after the regular rounds.
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| I think that it's unsafe to make any predictions until much nearer the start of the season when squads are fixed & the injury situation is known.
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| Quote ="Old Feller"I think that it's unsafe to make any predictions until much nearer the start of the season when squads are fixed & the injury situation is known.'"
Is that your prediction for the time being..?
I am interested to see who other teams sign in the meantime as it sounds from what I read on here that we are not going to be getting anyone in...
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| Quote ="William Eve"No amount of tinkering or emphasis on defence can alter the fact that Leeds current spine of 1,6,7 and 9 is awful... Golding, Sutcliffe, Lilley, Stretcher Boy (who will probably miss half the season) and Burrow.
As always, Leeds fate is also dependent upon the rest of the SL competition, which, for the most part is also pants. But the majority of them do appear to employ a better spine than Leeds.
If there are no additions to the current squad, I'm thinking lower, around 8th to 10th.'"
i hope that you will be submitting your sl finishing positions in the new year william?
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| On paper without Segeyaro its hard to see us in the top 4 unless one of the other teams implodes. It is difficult to predict though - you can make realistic looking scenarios for anywhere from 3rd to last.
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| 6th isn't a bad punt I reckon. If it comes to pass it'll be interesting to see the intent shown by the club with regard to getting back to the big time.
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| I think we'll scrape into the Super 8's, and I'd be more than happy with that as it stands. As Brisbane says we'd need some serious implosions or meltdowns from a few teams to be in with a chance of the top 4, and I can't see that happening.
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| Unfortunatley for Hetherington and Mac failure in my opinion is anywhere outside the top 4 . Only Wigan and Wire are sure top 4 positions with possibly Saints as third best leaving us to finish above Hull and Cas for the 4th spot . I doubt any other team are capable of gatecrashing the four . Whilst our (ex) hooker has created a problem which some of us saw coming we had enough excuses to last us a lifetime last season and expectations of the best supported club in the league should be far higher than what they seem at the moment .
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"we had enough excuses to last us a lifetime last season and expectations of the best supported club in the league should be far higher than what they seem at the moment .'"
Agree with the sentiment, but expectation has to be based around the quality of the squad - we know from last season we'll turn out week after week irrespective of what we're likely to see.
Succession planning is key during a good run of seasons, but the eye has clearly come off the ball as we're lacking in most of the crucial positions.
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| TBF we were turning out good attendances off the back of 2015.
I know a few people who bought season tickets for last season based on 2015 who will not now be renewing after the 2016 debacle.
Fickle? maybe, but its going to be the quality of performances on the field that are the catalyst to drive the business forward off it.
As for succession planning.....
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| I'm happy to have a bit more room in the southstand, without a few of the fickle fans.
Not too happy at the prospect, of another season, without challenging for any honours.
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| Any or all of McGuire Burrow and JJB could go after this season, why would the club not attempt to win something this year when next year will probably be transitional anyway.
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| Quote ="leedsnsouths"Any or all of McGuire Burrow and JJB could go after this season, why would the club not attempt to win something this year when next year will probably be transitional anyway.'"
A) because mags burrow jjb aren't sinny jp and Kylie
B) how many transitional years do you want? 2016 2017 2018
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"I'm happy to have a bit more room in the southstand, without a few of the fickle fans.
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Any chance that will include drummer boy??
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| Quote ="taxi4stevesmith"A) because mags burrow jjb aren't sinny jp and Kylie
B) how many transitional years do you want? 2016 2017 2018'"
Really?! Mags and Burrow will probably go down in Leeds 10 best players ever, and JJB has been a loyal servant to the club his whole career. I think it would be wrong to use potentially their last year as a year to take few chafes on upcoming talent and not use the full cap.
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| How many youngsters do you think will be given a chance? Obviously Golding and Lilley. But beyond that? When McDermott is under pressure, as he's very likely to be next year, he'll most likely react how almost all coaches do and pick even more conservative teams.
We saw this year a tendency to pick crocked senior players rather than just wait for them to be fit. It will take a big change in mindset for McDermott to focus on developing players if we're in trouble of missing the 8 again. Maybe the fact that this tactic backfired spectacularly in terms of results will do the trick. Lets hope so anyway.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"How many youngsters do you think will be given a chance? Obviously Golding and Lilley. But beyond that? When McDermott is under pressure, as he's very likely to be next year, he'll most likely react how almost all coaches do and pick even more conservative teams.
We saw this year a tendency to pick crocked senior players rather than just wait for them to be fit. It will take a big change in mindset for McDermott to focus on developing players if we're in trouble of missing the 8 again. Maybe the fact that this tactic backfired spectacularly in terms of results will do the trick. Lets hope so anyway.'"
If biscuit bones is fit, and depending on how they gel pre-season, I think he'll alternate Lilley and Aston with Mags in the halves and leave Burrow to come off the bench hooking for impact.
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| Aston to be the new Baldwinson...play well for Fev but not get a sniff in at Leeds.
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| Quote ="HRS Rhino"If biscuit bones is fit, and depending on how they gel pre-season, I think he'll alternate Lilley and Aston with Mags in the halves and leave Burrow to come off the bench hooking for impact.'" interchanging with who?
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| If Burrow starts on the bench will we play with 12 men until he comes on?
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| Depends if were attacking or not.
Bit like goalie when ned...
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