Without JJB, Ward, Mullally and potentially Falloon for this first game of the season. Big potential in this squad for me, but a very difficult game to start with.

Wouldn't be surprised with a loss, especially with Warringtons recruitment for the season.

Hardaker
Briscoe Moon Watkins Hall
Sutcliffe McGuire
Garbutt Burrow Cuthbertson
Ferres Ablett
Delaney

Galloway, Singleton, Keinhorst, Lilley/Falloon/Achurch

Why what has happened to Faloon? If injured not having the best of starts is he?

Otherwise agree with your 17....Ferres and Ablett have to be the starting second rowers and Garbutt deserves a starting spot at prop

Broken toe, don't know how long he'll be out for.

Knew they pulled him out of game today at last minute with foot problem but not aware toe broken - that's a blow before Thursday.

According to what was said today at the game, he still has a chance of making it for Thursday so clearly not a bad break.

If he's fit, he starts for me. If not, Burrow starts at hooker with Lilley on the bench.

Otherwise same side as Frosties, except Galloway starts with Cuthbertson at loose and Delaney on the bench.

How come Falloon was due to play today anyway? Not match fit or not in McDermott's first team plans at present?

It's sounding like Warrington will be without Ratchford, Dodds, Laithwaite, Harrison, Bailey, B Evans, T King and maybe Russell.

Same as Frosties but obviously Watkins and moon playing right and left centre respectively instead of the other way round.

After such a good preseason, I would like to see lilly play.

It will be a big miss if Faloon misses out.
Wire by 16.

Im not sure Sutty is ready to start i'd go with.
Hardaker
Hall
Moon
Watkins
Briscoe
Mags
Lilley
Garbutt
Burrow
Cuthbertson
Ablett
Ferres
Delaney

Sutcliffe
Galloway
Singo
Keinhorst.

Russell was due to play at Barrow on Friday but the game was off

We did manage to pick up 3 pieces of silverware with Burrow at 9 so not quite sure he will be that big of a miss.

That's actually a bit of a play.

Agree with you about Sutty. Lilley has earned a start and looks the best of the kickers. Happy with your line up although Garbutt might provide more impact from the bench.

Re kicking, I can only see Hardaker being earmarked for the role as I'm guessing the coaching team will be desperate to instil some degree of consistency. I don't think Lilley will be picked often enough. Whether that works is another matter but I think it's what'll happen.

Just to make my comment clearer.
I was repsonding to hearing Faloon would most likely miss the game stating he will be a big miss.
I went on to say what I thought would happen on the night without actually linking the 2 together Biff.
Even with Faloon playing I might well have said Wire by 16 which to be honest is what I was thinking anyway.
Hope that clears it up?

not sure why you think wire will stuff us by 15 , we all have different opinions yes , but your reasoning will be interesting

If Warrington line up as they did against Leigh, Leeds need to take them on down the middle. The drop off between their starting middle unit (Hill, Clark, Sims, Westwood) and what's to potentially come off the bench (Cox, Dwyer, Westerman, Philbin) is pretty significant.

Would imagine they will want to keep that starting front row on for as long as they can, so keep going back at them and taking some energy out of their legs early on. Might not be the most attractive way to win a game, but it's likely to be more effective than throwing the ball around and turning it over early in the tackle count. One of the reasons I'd start with three recognised props.

The backs pick themselves really though I would start with sutty.He needs to get his confidence back quickly and faith in him to do it might help.

Galloway
Faloon/Burrow
Singleton
Ferres
Ablett
Cuthbertson

Burrow/lilley,garbutt,Delaney,keinhorst.
When Delaney comes on at LF move Cuthbertson to prop.

I would try hammer them down the middle early then start trying to get to Watkins and moon in space if it opens up.
The offload game, especially in the middle of the park is important,it will really help with tiring them out.

i see, i read it that you thought we lose due to the absence of Faloon. My apologies

I see it like this. I think Wire will try and play an expansive game from the start due to a weakened bench. It has worked for them a few times recently at our place where they have started like a house on fire and we have been left chasing the game for an hour. Hopefully we can wear them down, and at the right times bring our superior back line into the game.

I suspect Lilley is still viewed as a bit raw. How our kicking game in open play and for goal fares against how Sandow and Gidley go for wire could well be key. If Lilley was due to play v wire he would have not been in v Fev. I agree his game time this year will depend largely on whether our kicking game is functioning well. If so he can be brought on a bit more gradually. The next 2 games are about building to wcc. I expect The more experienced players will play in next 3 games unless injuries happen.

No need to apologise Biff. I can see how it might have looked.
As for Ploinerrhino I just have a feeling their half backs will outplay ours which could nulify our backs.
The forwards are evenly matched and possibly we might find ourselves having to put in too many tackles if we let them dominate in the front row and their hookers get quick PTB.
I have no insight or crystal ball just a feeling.
Bet I would get decent odds on Wire with 16 though.

19 man squad announced: www.therhinos.co.uk/m/news/28391.php Walters and Lilley/Falloon to drop out.

19 man squad announced: www.therhinos.co.uk/m/news/28391.php Walters and Lilley/Falloon to drop out.

Quote ="craigizzard"19 man squad announced: www.therhinos.co.uk/m/news/28391.php Walters and Lilley/Falloon to drop out.'" Unless Falloon injured I can't see Lilley getting the spot

Quote ="craigizzard"19 man squad announced: www.therhinos.co.uk/m/news/28391.php Walters and Lilley/Falloon to drop out.'" Unless Falloon injured I can't see Lilley getting the spot