Blimey it wasn't really was it? Just rewatched the match and we were very fortuanate to get that one. A fantastic match and Leeds made numerous breaks but Saints performed miracles keeping them from scoring. I have to say I would be pretty agrieved about losing to that 'try'. Both teams were heroic....a real pity Huddersfield couldn't have given Wigan the same treatment.

Can the lads really finish with a GF victory? A bluddy phenomanal effort if they do

Not for me either but i have seen similar if not worse given this season so i don't think it was too controversial going off them.Also, the ref sent it up as try so that goes into the thinking of the VR obviously.Had it been us on the end of it though i would be quite pee'd off, so could understand the Saints fans reactions. Saints were fantastic, and both teams left nothing on the pitch.Just hope the lads can re charge and get up for one big last effort next week.

It's amazing the amount of people who were complaining about Hall's try against Australia being disallowed are now complaining Hall's try against Saints shouldn't have been given. It was a try, and would've been a try in any other SL game.

course it was a try. every single time

Yeh no problem with the grounding. Has control of ball when it finally hits ground.

As some posters have pointed out on the VT, people seem to get confused by the issue of downward pressure which is actually only relevant to kicks etc.

it was a try and i have no idea why there is even a debate about it. Try every day of every week in every month of every year.

Some Leeds fans in denial here. Hall puts the ball down with his arm hairs. I'm not disputing that under the current rules it had to be given. But if we're looking at it objectively then it's come to something that we're awarding tries for that.

yes but plenty been awarded for that all season. for all teams.
I agree it's not right but at least it's been consistently applied

The ball never separated from his hand, so it was a try.
There might also have been some argument that there were two sets of Saints hands in there trying to strip it which could have been a penalty try.

On such small margins these tight games are decided. Mind you to some Wiganers highlighted on another thread, it's all a giant conspiracy by the RFL. RFL bosses specifically controlled the bounce if the ball into Ryan Hall's hands against Hudds and then they used their special emergency powers to make 4 defenders fall off Hall as he was escorted to a he try line on Friday night.

So under your rules, you don't want tries given for players not dropping the ball?

Strange.

I'm still lost at what alternative decision should have been given? Hall never lost the ball and it's on the floor. If it's not a try what is it?

Unless the RFL have changed interpretation in such instances a ball steal in order to prevent a try cannot result in a penalty try. IIRC it was a penalty try awarded to Leeds (Matt Diskin) at Odsal which led to the current thinking.

was the ball glued to his wrist?

Doesn't need to be.

Away from Hall's try. what about his attitude in going damage limitions for the percival try?

He drove and bust it up from the tap, got the ball stolen (fairly), Wilkin cleverly drew the play right to Hall's empty wing and Percvial strolled in. But Hall tracked back like hell to make sure he was left in the corner not strolling under posts. if he had done they'd have gone 2 scores up (due to an easy kick, thankfully Walsh missed the touchliner) and the outcome may have been different.

Positive try scores get the headlines but it's the stuff that's a little harder to notice that make the difference ultimately.

Great observation. Compare with McGuire's poor reaction to the ball steal, waving his arms at the ref rather than trying to effect a tackle.

He did the same last week for the Robinson no try.

You don't want me as a ref.

Ironically, had Garbutt not made so much of a do or die effort to track back then Hardaker would have had an outside chance of getting to Percival and preventing the try being scored at all.

Not to be a d1ck, because I am supporting Leeds and sitting in your end at the Grand Final, but this is the point at which Hall loses the ball if we're looking at it objectively. Like I said, I'm not disputing that it's a try under the current interpretation, but to suggest he never actually loses control is absurd. There is separation between the ball and Halls fingertips here - if you can't see it, drag it into a new tab. He scores with his arm hairs.

Think that was Kylie

As Tony said it was Kylie but you're right, though can't be critical of a forward making that kind of effort, especially one at his age.

The ball is on his hand and against his body. I'm not sure what more control you are wanting.

No separation. Downward Pressure Applied. T-R-Y Eddie.