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| I have just watched the match against the pies on Sky. I am very proud of the effort put in by our under strength team and the class they showed whilst dealing with every possible adversity during the match. Events and the the rub of the green conspired to give them nothing for their efforts. I thought the gracious manner Rob and Mac spoke with during the post match interview was a credit to them both.
I am sure that when the panel at Red hall review the match there will be some learning opportunities for the match officials, both on field and in the video booth.
Onwards and upwards the best team lost tonight, and all those who watched it, know that !
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| Yep, a games like that always conjure strange emotions. We weren't out played, and we have some key players to come back. Some better performances from the likes of Ablett, on another day we'dd have won comfortably.
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| I dont think we were the best team,lets be fair to Wigan in what was a great contest.A draw would have been justice imo, i thought we were superb at times but also dumb and reckless at others although you can't fault the effort 1 to 17 they dug in for the full 80.
None of us should get down about that.Big players to return.2 easy games on paper at home to finish the regular season and a CC semi on the horizon and we seem to be finding form again.
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| Agreed, I do not think we need to be down, I think we are in a great position and in form, I also think Mac and the team will be able to take a lot out of the review, had just a couple of calls gone our way we would have won, or at least drawn.
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| Quote ="GARFORTH LAD"I have just watched the match against the pies on Sky. I am very proud of the effort put in by our under strength team and the class they showed whilst dealing with every possible adversity during the match. Events and the the rub of the green conspired to give them nothing for their efforts. I thought the gracious manner Rob and Mac spoke with during the post match interview was a credit to them both.
I am sure that when the panel at Red hall review the match there will be some learning opportunities for the match officials, both on field and in the video booth.
Onwards and upwards the best team lost tonight, and all those who watched it, know that !
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I agree GL. A good effort that deserved at least a draw considering our light weight bench and injuries.
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| So why did McDermott take such an issue with Rod Stud over whether or not he's ever said 'you get what you deserve.'
Sounds like the sort of thing most coaches would say on a reasonably regular basis.
How long before someone finds an example of McDermott using words to the same effect?
Good, competitive game overall.
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| Quote ="tvoc"So why did McDermott take such an issue with Rod Stud over whether or not he's ever said 'you get what you deserve.'
Sounds like the sort of thing most coaches would say on a reasonably regular basis.
How long before someone finds an example of McDermott using words to the same effect?
Good, competitive game overall.'"
It was rather cringe worthy, I thought he was going to call poor Bill an Ostrich at some point
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| I think your comments about MAC during interview are most unfair. Clearly he was upset and Bill was trying to get the rise out of him. Unlike Cunningham and Wane he made no excuses for the loss and did not call his team or the officials. His only fault was being unable to mask how annoyed he was.
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| Quote ="GARFORTH LAD"I think your comments about MAC during interview are most unfair. Clearly he was upset and Bill was trying to get the rise out of him. Unlike Cunningham and Wane he made no excuses for the loss and did not call his team or the officials. His only fault was being unable to mask how annoyed he was.'"
I don't understand what McDermott's problem was to be honest. Bill Arthur has never been the type to make cheeky comments to coaches. he was just doing his job and McDermott came across like a bully.
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| Yep.Can you imagine the ape's response if that was wigan on the end of that tonight?!
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Yep.Can you imagine the ape's response if that was wigan on the end of that tonight?!'"
All I know is, that I wouldn't have a clue what he said. He has to be the most charismatic sporting coach I've ever come across.
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| Quote ="tvoc"So why did McDermott take such an issue with Rod Stud over whether or not he's ever said 'you get what you deserve.''"
Perhaps because he was misquoting him. And perhaps because he doesn't like him. Mac always gives an honest after match view and he didn't try to blame the questionable decisions going against us
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| I will point out that the interviewer was Rod Studd & he was looking for a reaction from McDermott about the the refereeeing decisions that clearly went against us.
Typical crap journalism that BM dealt with remarkably graciously considering how he must be feeling.
He didn't fall into the same trap that Cunningham crashed into last week.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"I don't understand what McDermott's problem was to be honest. Bill Arthur has never been the type to make cheeky comments to coaches. he was just doing his job and McDermott came across like a bully.'"
It wasn't Bill Arthur it was the annoying Rod Stud trying to be clever.
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| Rod Studd, stick to darts pal. Mac was brilliant in that interview when everyone else connected with the club were seething
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"It wasn't Bill Arthur it was the annoying Rod Stud trying to be clever.'"
My mistake. He's a self publicist of the highest order.
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| Quote ="Old Feller"I will point out that the interviewer was Rod Studd & he was looking for a reaction from McDermott about the the refereeeing decisions that clearly went against us.
Typical crap journalism that BM dealt with remarkably graciously considering how he must be feeling.
He didn't fall into the same trap that Cunningham crashed into last week.'"
Depends on your loyalties.
Two awful decisions went against you; the try ruled out for obstruction that never was and the Wigan try after Smith blatantly knocked on.
Had the correct decisions been made you would have won by 12 and deservedly so.
Clearly Mac was annoyed but to take it out on Stud does him no credit whatsoever; he looked like a childish bully trying to pick a fight with an idiot.
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| Quote ="saint at wire"Depends on your loyalties.
Two awful decisions went against you; the try ruled out for obstruction that never was and the Wigan try after Smith blatantly knocked on.
Had the correct decisions been made you would have won by 12 and deservedly so.
Clearly Mac was annoyed but to take it out on Stud does him no credit whatsoever; he looked like a childish bully trying to pick a fight with an idiot.'"
That's your view I beg to differ.
In journalism the bullying is inevitably carried out by the interviewer not the interviewee. Badgering people to say something controversial.
I think our guys were remarkably restrained.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"My mistake. He's a self publicist of the highest order.'"
He's recently joined Twitter and the other night he was complaining that the commentators on one of the Woman's World Cup matches kept harping on about the referee.
I felt it my duty to point out (politely) that his broadcast colleagues on Sky would never do anything like that.
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| Quote ="saint at wire"Depends on your loyalties.
Two awful decisions went against you; the try ruled out for obstruction that never was and the Wigan try after Smith blatantly knocked on.
Had the correct decisions been made you would have won by 12 and deservedly so.
Clearly Mac was annoyed but to take it out on Stud does him no credit whatsoever; he looked like a childish bully trying to pick a fight with an idiot.'"
Pretty good summary. Studd only had to ask a basic question to draw McDermott in, he tends to give good interviews when we win but the eccentric stuff occasionaly rears its head when we lose.
Then again .... a quick google search ....
[urlhttp://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/jun/20/leeds-rhinos-thrash-harlequins[/url
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| Why does he never ever look the interviewer in the eye?
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| Quote ="RoyFrancis"Why does he never ever look the interviewer in the eye?'"
Watch it again. He has plenty of eye to eye contact particularly when he initially answers the question or refutes attempts to get him to say something he may regret. I think he may be a bit deaf in one ear as he often turns his head after asking for a question to be repeated.
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| Quote ="Maverick Rhino"Pretty good summary. Studd only had to ask a basic question to draw McDermott in, he tends to give good interviews when we win but the eccentric stuff occasionaly rears its head when we lose.
Then again .... a quick google search ....
[urlhttp://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/jun/20/leeds-rhinos-thrash-harlequins[/url'"
I disagree. Mac did not get drawn in to Studd's attempt to put words in his mouth. When Mac didn't agree with Studd's assertion Studd pursued it by saying "well you've said it to me before", effectively calling him a liar. Mac had every right to respond by saying "I am not sure I have ever said that to you before"
Considering this was just after his team had lost a big game in the last minute with several controversial decisions effecting the result to suggest Mac's response was eccentric is a odd way to view his fair and reasoned summary.
Your quote from 6 years ago from a different club is not relevant to the context of this interview.
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| If I was a Wigan fan I'd be worried.
We won that, maybe not on the scoreboard but physiologically. We went to their back yard that is supposedly a fortress and gave them a real good run. Forget the ref and those decisions. WIgan pretty much had a full strength sides whereas we were forced to be without SLs best FB and put SLs best centre to FB. Add in SLs best winger prior to injury, Briscoe, along with a fit Garbutt and we win that home Super 8s game against them by absolute plenty!
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"If I was a Wigan fan I'd be worried.
We won that, maybe not on the scoreboard but physiologically. We went to their back yard that is supposedly a fortress and gave them a real good run. Forget the ref and those decisions. WIgan pretty much had a full strength sides whereas we were forced to be without SLs best FB and put SLs best centre to FB. Add in SLs best winger prior to injury, Briscoe, along with a fit Garbutt and we win that home Super 8s game against them by absolute plenty!'"
Despite the loss it feels like we've come away from that game with more. Could be a big moment in our season and a chance to instill a 'they're all against us' mentality.
Wigan didn't look special and couldn't deal with us in top gear. Garbutt was a big loss because we lacked impact off the bench.
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