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| Good news for england and us.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Good news for england and us.'"
I think so, Widdop to be no 6 in the next England game I believe.
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| I’m absolutely gutted that Sir Kev never won silverware whilst representing his country in rugby league. He was well thought of by the rugby union world cup winning Coach Sir Clive Woodward and he could have been in that team if he switched codes in the early 00s. He very nearly did.
To compensate for his lack of international silverware, Kev did captain Leeds to winning every domestic honour available and was rightly awarded the Golden Boot.
During Brian Nobles time as GB coach Kev was very rarely part of the scene which must have been very disheartening after rejecting Sir Clive Woodward’s advances. Biasness ruined what could have been a much better international career for Sir Kev.
Great news for us though!
James Graham has to be the new captain.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"I’m absolutely gutted that Sir Kev never won silverware whilst representing his country in rugby league. He was well thought of by the rugby union world cup winning Coach Sir Clive Woodward and he could have been in that team if he switched codes in the early 00s. He very nearly did.
To compensate for his lack of international silverware, Kev did captain Leeds to winning every domestic honour available and was rightly awarded the Golden Boot.
During Brian Nobles time as GB coach Kev was very rarely part of the scene which must have been very disheartening after rejecting Sir Clive Woodward’s advances. Biasness ruined what could have been a much better international career for Sir Kev.
Great news for us though!
James Graham has to be the new captain.'"
Sean O'Loughlin surely?
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| is he ever fit?
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| Quote ="tad rhino"is he ever fit?'" no spring chicken either
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| I thought he might do one more tour, but good decision.
O'Loughlin looks the stand-out candidate to me.
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| James Graham for me.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"I thought he might do one more tour, but good decision.
O'Loughlin looks the stand-out candidate to me.'"
Can't see it myself, not good enough for the team never mind captain. Widdop or graham
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| Graham's probably our best player now Burgess has defected. I'd leave him to crack on with being an animal.
O'Loughlin is a leader by nature and currently the league's 2nd best captain IMO.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"I’m absolutely gutted that Sir Kev never won silverware whilst representing his country in rugby league. He was well thought of by the rugby union world cup winning Coach Sir Clive Woodward and he could have been in that team if he switched codes in the early 00s. He very nearly did.
To compensate for his lack of international silverware, Kev did captain Leeds to winning every domestic honour available and was rightly awarded the Golden Boot.
During Brian Nobles time as GB coach Kev was very rarely part of the scene which must have been very disheartening after rejecting Sir Clive Woodward’s advances. Biasness ruined what could have been a much better international career for Sir Kev.
Great news for us though!
James Graham has to be the new captain.'"
Do you not remember the Autumn Series Win in 2012, that would be classed as silverware.
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| I've just watched the interview Kevin gave today on Youtube, you can see there is genuine upset at taking the decision to retire.
Good luck to him in the future with Leeds.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Can't see it myself, not good enough for the team never mind captain. Widdop or graham'"
Funnily enough, that's more or less what other teams' fans said about Sir Kev.
Would have him in my team every time when he's fit.
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| Good news for Leeds I think, thought he might have done the tour down under this year then go. Another scapegoat will have to be found now for the international team.
The best fit for captin for me is SOL although long term think it is graham. SOL is getting on himself and appears to be suffering with injuries a bit himself, could see him following sinny to prolong his Wigan career.
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| I thought he may have given it one last tour but its probably a wise choice and gives England a chance to build the team around widdop as the main half back.
I would probably go for Roby as captain would also be a good choice.o'loughlin,as good a player as he is, is too injury prone and i can't really see him going on at international much beyond this winter being 30 himself.
How long do people see kev going on for? Looking at much the international retirement aided JP could he go on another 3/4 seasons? I think so but it all depends on his appetite to do so having already acheived everything he can at club level and then some.
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| Roby might not be a bad shout.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Roby might not be a bad shout.'"
Good player doesn't shout captin to me but I may be wrong (usually am) there are better options IMO
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| At least we can look forward to watching england winning the next 3 worlds cups due to the 100's of world class english player's he has been keeping out of the team......according to non leeds fans
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Funnily enough, that's more or less what other teams' fans said about Sir Kev.
Would have him in my team every time when he's fit.'"
Most over rated player since his brother in law.
Sinfield has achieved everything in the game will be an all time great of the game. O loughlin won't
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| If Tomkins plays in the halves and Hardaker at FB, then have Zak as captain just for the outrage it would cause from fans from other clubs
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"If Tomkins plays in the halves and Hardaker at FB, then have Zak as captain just for the outrage it would cause from fans from other clubs
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Not a bad shout the VT would be happy hardaker already seems to be a player they don't like, ideal scapegoat for England when we lose
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| Quote ="Old Feller"Sean O'Loughlin surely?'"
If SOL does get awarded captaincy then one word springs to mind: sentimental.
From what I’ve seen on sky, the Wigan captain has had some really bad games this season and only a good run in the play offs I would make him an outside shot to be England captain. He’s also very injury prone and like Sinfield has been unlucky that he’s playing in a period where we’ve been spoilt for leaders. James Graham on the other hand should be at the peak of his career right now and I hear nothing but good reports from the NRL. He was awesome at Saints and has been great at international level so now is his time.
A bit of a long shot for consideration: Michael Shenton. He was sensational during the 2009 Four Nations and England only started to get battered in the final after he went off injured. This year is he showing some great form as Castleford Captain. He should definitely be back in the England team but still a mostly non/long shot for England captain.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Do you not remember the Autumn Series Win in 2012, that would be classed as silverware.'"
You’re right!
There’s also the 3-0 series whitewash of New Zealand in 2007 and an International origin series win in 2013.I’m sure I’m not the only one on these boards who’s so obsessed with the lack of success against Australia over the years that I forget other victories. My bad.
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