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| With Lowes appointment to be the Bulls coach will this mean that the Rhinos will now make a proper i.e. full-time appointment to the Assistant Coaches role?
I would like to see that happen but have no idea who it should or could be.
Preferably someone to coach the attack.
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| Quote ="Old Feller"With Lowes appointment to be the Bulls coach will this mean that the Rhinos will now make a proper i.e. full-time appointment to the Assistant Coaches role?
I would like to see that happen but have no idea who it should or could be.
Preferably someone to coach the attack.'"
Yeah, Franny cummins is signing tomorrow.
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| Franny Cummins isn't doing much these days.
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| Quote ="finglas"Yeah, Franny cummins is signing tomorrow.
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| Quote ="finglas"Yeah, Franny cummins is signing tomorrow.
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Yes, because the Bulls attack has been awesome this season.
It was clearly too much to hope for a sensible debate on this here.
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| A bloke I know is tipping dunemann for assistant next year and moving to head coach year after. Don't know how much stock to put into what he says I have no idea where he gets his info from. On a positive he told me we had signed someone called Achurch long before it was mentioned in public by the club. But he has also told me rummors that were way wide of the mark
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| Quote ="Old Feller"With Lowes appointment to be the Bulls coach will this mean that the Rhinos will now make a proper i.e. full-time appointment to the Assistant Coaches role?
I would like to see that happen but have no idea who it should or could be.
Preferably someone to coach the attack.'"
Reserved for JP?
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| Quote ="Ferdy"A bloke I know is tipping dunemann for assistant next year and moving to head coach year after. Don't know how much stock to put into what he says I have no idea where he gets his info from. On a positive he told me we had signed someone called Achurch long before it was mentioned in public by the club. But he has also told me rummors that were way wide of the mark'"
I know this bloke too and unfortunately he predicted that Kirky will never leave the Rhinos in our lifetime...
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| Quote ="Old Feller"Yes, because the Bulls attack has been awesome this season.
It was clearly too much to hope for a sensible debate on this here.'"
virtually every topic on here goes off the rails. I was jokingly making a point about the availability of an ex player who had tried assistant /head coach roles at other clubs and could be a possibility. James Lowes followed a similar course.
IMO I think the club may use the role to entice one of their senior players whilst softening the blow of demoting them from being a first team regular.
top of the list would be Peacock /Sinfield, with alternative options being McGuire /Burrow / JJB and possibly Kirke thrown into the mix.
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| It needs an outside influence going forward, and Dunemann would be a perfect replacement to take over.
I also wouldn't be surprised if Cummins ended up at Carnegie, replacing Lowes.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"It needs an outside influence going forward, and Dunemann would be a perfect replacement to take over.
I also wouldn't be surprised if Cummins ended up at Carnegie, replacing Lowes.'"
Not necessarily sure I agree on needing an outside influence. The best potential assistant coach may be one who has been a proven winner an knows what is required whilst also understanding the winning culture that the club has had over the last decade. I'm not sure why you lambast the club for not doing everything to keep kids who could turn out to be great whilst calling for the exact opposite regarding the coaching positions.
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| Lowes hasn't been involved with the Rhinos for a while now, and Leeds didn't have a full time assistant coach? I though Plume and Eaton were assisting on a PT basis? So why would Lowes' apointment at Bradford have any baring on Leeds appointing a full time assistant?
FWIW I think Dunneman would be a suberb adition.
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i thought Lowes did still play a part in our coaching set-up along with those you mention.
This article in the YEP today (towards the end) suggests that he has continued to be involved & that the club is looking for an assistant coach:
www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-6692598
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i thought Lowes did still play a part in our coaching set-up along with those you mention.
This article in the YEP today (towards the end) suggests that he has continued to be involved & that the club is looking for an assistant coach:
www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-6692598
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| Quote ="finglas"Not necessarily sure I agree on needing an outside influence. The best potential assistant coach may be one who has been a proven winner an knows what is required whilst also understanding the winning culture that the club has had over the last decade. I'm not sure why you lambast the club for not doing everything to keep kids who could turn out to be great whilst calling for the exact opposite regarding the coaching positions.'"
Surely you are not really trying to compare a potential star kid with years ahead of him in the game, with appointing a coach from a playing pool. Two completely different talents, and a ridiculous argument.
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| What's Dave Furner up to I know he got the boot at Canberra as a head coach but he was highly thought of within the NRL as a potentially astute young coach plus he knows the SL and Leeds.
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| The likes of Dunneman and Furner will be well wide of the mark.
Recent history suggests it will be a young British coach with inferior credentials to McD and above all more than likely on a part time basis.
So to sum up, it will be underwhelming.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"What's Dave Furner up to I know he got the boot at Canberra as a head coach but he was highly thought of within the NRL as a potentially astute young coach plus he knows the SL and Leeds.'"
Isn't he assistant coach at North Queensland Cowboys?
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| Not sure we'll see any change/appointments in the remainder of this year but 2015 should be interesting.
As we've seen with our 2 previous coaches, there is a shelf-life and personally I think McDermott will have reached his by the end of next year, so we should be possibly looking at a new head coach for the start of 2016.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Surely you are not really trying to compare a potential star kid with years ahead of him in the game, with appointing a coach from a playing pool. Two completely different talents, and a ridiculous argument.'"
I'm questioning your assertion that the appointment has to be an external appointment, whilst that is possible, the club has internal candidates that have the potential to be excellent coaches and possibly a better option.
I didn't say they had to appoint internally but that there were options whereas you said it had to be an external appointment.
I then questioned why you would make such an assertion and dismiss any possibility that internal candidates could offer the ideal solution when you lambast the club for not signing up every potentially great youngster in the juniors.
I offered an option which you had completely dismissed and you suggested it was a ridiculous argument. In that case please explain why having to appoint an external candidate no matter the credentials of the internal candidate is not a ridiculous argument.
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| Quote ="finglas"I'm questioning your assertion that the appointment has to be an external appointment, whilst that is possible, the club has internal candidates that have the potential to be excellent coaches and possibly a better option.
I didn't say they had to appoint internally but that there were options whereas you said it had to be an external appointment.
I then questioned why you would make such an assertion and dismiss any possibility that internal candidates could offer the ideal solution when you lambast the club for not signing up every potentially great youngster in the juniors.
I offered an option which you had completely dismissed and you suggested it was a ridiculous argument. In that case please explain why having to appoint an external candidate no matter the credentials of the internal candidate is not a ridiculous argument.'"
Firstly, I dismissed the comparison of coaching with young players as ridiculous because it is.
Secondly, I have never said we should sign up every youngster, and lambasted the club for it. That is you obviously getting a bit of a fanny twitch.
Thirdly, I said external, because as proven with Smith, McClennen, and McDermott, coming from outside, not working with the players currently, is a better option than someone continuing on the same way who has been here a long time. Change brings freshness.
Fourthly, I didn't dismiss any option. I simply gave my opinion that best to appoint external, as proven by point three.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Firstly, I dismissed the comparison of coaching with young players as ridiculous because it is..'" I was talking about the recruitment policy not the comparison of coaches with players, but you knew that didn't you.
Quote ="Gotcha"Secondly, I have never said we should sign up every youngster, and lambasted the club for it. That is you obviously getting a bit of a fanny twitch...'" I said every "potentially great" which tied in to your claims in other posts that there are some youngsters that are much further ahead than others and these should be targeted. You completely change my post to every youngster, but you knew that didn't you.
Quote ="Gotcha"Thirdly, I said external, because as proven with Smith, McClennen, and McDermott, coming from outside, not working with the players currently, is a better option than someone continuing on the same way who has been here a long time. Change brings freshness.'" Why bring in head coaches that is a ridiculous argument. I was talking about assistant coaches I agree changes may bring in freshness but I also said there may be players who have potential to be great coaches within the ranks who should be considered for an assistant coach position,but you knew that didn't you.
Quote ="Gotcha"Fourthly, I didn't dismiss any option. I simply gave my opinion that best to appoint external, as proven by point three.'" You said "It needs an outside influence going forward..." which seems to dismiss an internal option, but you knew that didn't you.
Furthermore I asked you to "explain why having to appoint an external candidate no matter the credentials of the internal candidate is not a ridiculous argument." But you didn't offe an explanation.
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| Question: Would Keith Senior or Barrie McD be classed as an internal of external appointment?
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"Question: Would Keith Senior or Barrie McD be classed as an internal of external appointment?'" I don't think it matters if they are considered the best people for the job
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I also wouldn't be surprised if Cummins ended up at Carnegie, replacing Lowes.'"
On the YEP website it says Gary Mercer wants the Carnegie job.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"On the YEP website it says Gary Mercer wants the Carnegie job.'"
Gary Mercer's philosophy of playing rugby: Just run on the diagonal.
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