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| thats gratitude for you. Who the hell would want the job !! ??
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| To be fair he has brought that on himself over last few weeks. That club may well be in tatters, and some pretty average players to boot, but he picks the team each week. And some of his selections defy belief at times.
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| maybe could return to HQ as assistant to BM.he leaves the Bulls with dignity imo,did all he could.Wayne Bennett couldnt have saved them this year!
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| Quote ="Gotcha"To be fair he has brought that on himself over last few weeks. That club may well be in tatters, and some pretty average players to boot, but he picks the team each week. And some of his selections defy belief at times.'"
maybe but it cant be easy not knowing what players are going to be turning up at training one week to the next and who is going out through the revolving door.its amazing he hasnt walked himself to be fair and I cant recall ever hearing him bemoaning the situation he has just got on with the job.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"maybe but it cant be easy not knowing what players are going to be turning up at training one week to the next and who is going out through the revolving door.its amazing he hasnt walked himself to be fair and I cant recall ever hearing him bemoaning the situation he has just got on with the job.'"
I think that was a fair point earlier in the season. But not over last six weeks. He even added loan signings, and not bad ones. But he made so many mistakes selection wise. You only had to see the Catalans debacle to see how bad Gaskell is at fullback, but he continued with it. That is what I am talking about with selections brought on by himself.
Sympathy start of season, none over last six weeks though.
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| He ain't the first coach to find himself in an impossible situation but in all honesty he hasn't dragged up much in the way of battling performances by his team. Contrast that with Mick Potter, say.
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| Perhaps Nobby the saviour will return to his hallowed ground
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| Quote ="Bobtownrhino"Perhaps Nobby the saviour will return to his hallowed ground
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And be payed in what? Pies?
Suprised bulls have enough money to pay cummins off, let alone bring in anyone substantial. Doubt they can afford nobby unless he wants to do it out of the goodness of his heart.
Clubs in tatters, complete TATTERS. They should react pragamatically, prepare for life in the championship now so they can try and get ajump start next season to try and win back promotion.
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| Poor reward for the loyalty he has shown the Bulls. Maybe it has more to do with cutting their cloth ready to fit next seasons reduced circumstances?
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| nothing but respect for Franny for what he has done for our club...however, 1 win in 13, not good enough
You tell me you'd have wanted BM if his record was that bad
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| Quote ="bfdbull1979"nothing but respect for Franny for what he has done for our club...however, 1 win in 13, not good enough
You tell me you'd have wanted BM if his record was that bad'"
Some wouldn't want BM if he got 1 loss in 13.
RL fans are so fickle.
Feel sorry for FC but I must say I never thought he would make a top class coach in SL or at least not just yet.
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| The loses are one thing, the manner of most of them have been really bad though. London are in a mess as a club also and even though they haven't won a game they've shown some spirit in defeat.
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| Whilst I feel sorry for Cummins, I can see why Bradford have done it.
They need to try something to get a couple of results and often a new coach leads to a temporary upping of performance from the players.
It's the massive downside of promotion & relegation unfortunately. A few years ago under a licensing system they'd have been able to regroup and build for the future like Widnes.
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| Lowes looks to be throwing hat into the ring
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| Matt Diskin player coach anyone? His business seems to run OK without his full time input, and I reckon he'll stay in the game when he stops playing.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Matt Diskin player coach anyone? His business seems to run OK without his full time input, and I reckon he'll stay in the game when he stops playing.'"
Isn't he their captain? If so, he can hardly claim to have motivated the team on the pitch. And let's face it, with the players at their disposal, motivation and commitment were absolute must haves if they were ever to claw back their deficit.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Matt Diskin player coach anyone? His business seems to run OK without his full time input, and I reckon he'll stay in the game when he stops playing.'"
He is the player coach for our game against Hull KR on Friday. On telly too, that will be fun for us Bulls fans! Who said sky don't schedule games properly?!
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Isn't he their captain? If so, he can hardly claim to have motivated the team on the pitch. And let's face it, with the players at their disposal, motivation and commitment were absolute must haves if they were ever to claw back their deficit.'"
I imagine it's very hard to motivate a team that is made up largely of loan players that other club's don't have a need for. People claim that Franny "lost the dressing room" at Odsal - most of his dressing room in the early part of the season didn't expect to be there for more than four weeks.
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| Bet ya Robbie Hunter-Paul has a go at coaching them.
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| Great, he can shove his goody two shoes life philosophy's down someone else's throat now bro
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| Quote ="Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino"Great, he can shove his goody two shoes life philosophy's down someone else's throat now bro'"
But they'll all have lovely nails.
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| Quote ="bfdbull1979"nothing but respect for Franny for what he has done for our club...however, 1 win in 13, not good enough
You tell me you'd have wanted BM if his record was that bad'"
Francis Cummins has been badly done to. You draw a parallel between Leeds and Bradford but there is a difference. Dean Bell’s record in 1996 was pretty similar and GH stuck with him. Huddersfield stuck with Tony Smith when they were being beat left right and centre and were relegated. Subsequently they came back stronger .The Bulls panic management seem focussed on a quick fix. They have missed a great opportunity with Francis Cummins to re build from nothing and invest in youth. IMO Cummins Leeds connection has worked against him and from the start he was behind the eight ball He would have needed to work a miracle to win over many resentful Bradford fans with such a poor quality squad. After last nights results they would be better off blooding more youngsters in preparation for next year because Hope has defiantly fled Pandora’s box.
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| The bulls should have stayed with cummins,as normal they have carried on with the bulls tradition of making the wrong decisions. Starting with the Harris saga and inviting ownership bids from various parties who should not be anywhere near a super league club.
Credit to Cummins he kept a dignified silence amid the comedy capers that surrounded him.
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| Cummins at no time ever as a player showed anything to indicate he could make a coach.
The Bulls were right, he was never going to take them forward, regardless of their other problems.
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