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| I never thought I would say this, but I really feel sorry for the supporters of Bradford. What a state the club is in. Last Thursday game, Leeds never really got out of first gear, it was like a pre season friendly, because the state of Bradford team was so poor. On this display London may well beat them. I use to love the Derbys 20,000 packed in and you could feel the passion. But on Thursday thoes few Bradford supporters who turned up, it was like they were going to a funneral. I would also suspect there was far less than the 10,000 gate.
The game needs strong clubs, Bradford are in a mess and the stories coming out of the club is that the new owner has no money so if they do stay up, they will be in a mess next year. I wonder if the RFL should have put the club out of its misery and allowed the supporters to start it agin.
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| Not to be petty but the attendance was 10, 106, that's what the BBC say anyway.
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| Whilst i agree it must hard and heart breaking for the fans we should know after our own turbulent and uncertain period and in my own case i went through the same with LUFC aswell.
However years of serious mis-management ,spending money they never had and the fact its been going on for years now i find it hard to have any sympathy whatsoever.
I don't doubt there is an element of bad luck in there but 95% self inflicted imo i go there most years and agree when its full and the games are fierce its great.
When it was billed as the last "Bulls v Rhinos" at Odslum ever i was there and saw plenty of Rhinos fans putting money into the collection buckets etc then what did the hosts do?
They blew a few grand with fireworks FFS!
Also what really grated was the sh##e reception Brian Mc and JP got after donating their medals and shirts to the save the Bulls Auction not from everybody but more than enough to be noticed.
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| Quote ="huddersfield rhino"I never thought I would say this, but I really feel sorry for the supporters of Bradford. What a state the club is in. Last Thursday game, Leeds never really got out of first gear, it was like a pre season friendly, because the state of Bradford team was so poor. On this display London may well beat them. I use to love the Derbys 20,000 packed in and you could feel the passion. But on Thursday thoes few Bradford supporters who turned up, it was like they were going to a funneral. I would also suspect there was far less than the 10,000 gate.
The game needs strong clubs, Bradford are in a mess and the stories coming out of the club is that the new owner has no money so if they do stay up, they will be in a mess next year. I wonder if the RFL should have put the club out of its misery and allowed the supporters to start it agin.'"
Where are the stories coming out of the club that the new owner has no money
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| Apart from the early 80s under Peter Fox and the start of the Summer era, when Bradford went in to the new format far better prepared than many other clubs (Leeds included) and with the likes of Matthew Elliot as coach and the late Peter Deakin doing the marketing .... When else in the last fifty or so years have Bradford been a 'big successful' club ?
If anyone else thinks what happening at Bradford is anything 'new' then I suggest you have a look at their history circa 62 / 63 (if you can find anything)
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| I feel sad about what is currently happening at the bulls as well. The club still exists.
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| Quote ="huddersfield rhino"I never thought I would say this, but I really feel sorry for the supporters of Bradford. What a state the club is in. '"
I don't ... Let's show Bradford the same consideration as they gave us when were were flogged up the river by the then board.
A certain club was more than happy to relieve us of the services of James Lowes.
Quote ="huddersfield rhino" I use to love the Derbys 20,000 packed in and you could feel the passion.'"
And how many of them were on freebie tickets, which might have been half of the problem ... Give them away whilst you're going well and no-one is going to pay to watch you when you're rubbish ....
Quote ="huddersfield rhino"But on Thursday those few Bradford supporters who turned up, it was like they were going to a funeral.'"
Nothing at all new there then ... At least they don't chant the endless "Northern" dirge any more.
Do they still have the Dennis The Menace on the Quad Bike with the horns any more ?
Quote ="huddersfield rhino"The game needs strong clubs, Bradford are in a mess and the stories coming out of the club is that the new owner has no money so if they do stay up, they will be in a mess next year. I wonder if the RFL should have put the club out of its misery and allowed the supporters to start it again.'"
There were supposed to be multiple bidders for Bradford a few weeks ago and I can't imagine that even the RFL are stupid enough to select someone in the same was as most of us do a Grand National sweepstake.
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| Last time I checked, it was the administrators decision as to whether Bradford was sold as a going concern or not, not the RFL's.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Whilst i agree it must hard and heart breaking for the fans we should know after our own turbulent and uncertain period and in my own case i went through the same with LUFC aswell.
However years of serious mis-management ,spending money they never had and the fact its been going on for years now i find it hard to have any sympathy whatsoever.
I don't doubt there is an element of bad luck in there but 95% self inflicted imo i go there most years and agree when its full and the games are fierce its great.
When it was billed as the last "Bulls v Rhinos" at Odslum ever i was there and saw plenty of Rhinos fans putting money into the collection buckets etc then what did the hosts do?
They blew a few grand with fireworks FFS!
Also what really grated was the sh##e reception Brian Mc and JP got after donating their medals and shirts to the save the Bulls Auction not from everybody but more than enough to be noticed.'"
There is an FB page Bulls Banter Gledhill put my name on it.I never posted till a few weeks ago when they were making the usual allegations about Leeds and GH running SL to the benefit of Leeds I pointed out about wasn't the the payments for Odsal bought by the RFL for the benefit of Bradford ? I also mentioned the help this club has from Leeds fans and of course JP and Mac donating their medals etc .I got taken off the page after some abuse
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Last time I checked, it was the administrators decision as to whether Bradford was sold as a going concern or not, not the RFL's.'"
Correct, but if sold as a going concern (which it was) the buyer had to be approved by the RFL, which is the reason Mandy Kashcow is not the current owner.
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| I had sympathy with the plight of Bradford until Peter Hood knowingly played on the emotions of the RL community to raise just enough money to absolve himself of any personal guarantees he had in place. That done he waltzed off into the sunset - cynical b*stard.
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| The floodgates are well & truly open over at BD6.
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| Goodbye from Super League Bradford
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| I didn't want Bradford to be relegated because of how it will affect our big games against them. Then I went to Odsal on Thursday and no one cares anymore. It felt like a non event. I was absolutely freezing, the place was falling apart and half empty and the game was as poor an advert for rugby league as you're likely to see bar a couple of moments. I hope there is a way back for them but after that on Thursday I can't see it. It was a sorry state.
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| I'm happy to see 'em crash and burn. Their supporters are a strange lot and their ground has the worst atmosphere in Superleague. I've never known fans chant how much they hate an opposition team (leeds) rather than supporting their own side.
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| Quote ="Andy R"I didn't want Bradford to be relegated because of how it will affect our big games against them. Then I went to Odsal on Thursday and no one cares anymore. It felt like a non event. I was absolutely freezing, the place was falling apart and half empty and the game was as poor an advert for rugby league as you're likely to see bar a couple of moments. I hope there is a way back for them but after that on Thursday I can't see it. It was a sorry state.'"
I have to agree with William Eve on that the Bradford v Leeds derby was built purely on the SL Bulls brand boom and their meteoric rise to being a power in the game circa 2000.This coincided with our slump which heightened the tension between the clubs.I started watching Leeds as a kid in the late 80's and back then 'Northern' were never seen as our main rival.Without the Bully Bully and razamataz and hanger on's that went with it, they were only pulling the hardcore faithfull of around 6k a week to games in those days, and seen as no more our local rivals as other West Yorkshire clubs like Halifax,Wakey and Fev.Infact, i would say Cas were seen as our main derby rivals in those days.
I wish them well with their recovery, but its very hard to see a return to those peak days a decade ago.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"I have to agree with William Eve on that the Bradford v Leeds derby was built purely on the SL Bulls brand boom and their meteoric rise to being a power in the game circa 2000.This coincided with our slump which heightened the tension between the clubs.I started watching Leeds as a kid in the late 80's and back then 'Northern' were never seen as our main rival.Without the Bully Bully and razamataz and hanger on's that went with it, they were only pulling the hardcore faithfull of around 6k a week to games in those days, and seen as no more our local rivals as other West Yorkshire clubs like Halifax,Wakey and Fev.Infact, i would say Cas were seen as our main derby rivals in those days.
I wish them well with their recovery, but its very hard to see a return to those peak days a decade ago.'"
I always viewed a game against Wigan as a bigger game, however the few years where we had the 20,000 plus crowds and both clubs were consistently strong sides made the fixture huge.
I can't see it ever getting back to that level but a competitive Bradford would be good for the competition. Unfortunately, unless Wakey fall apart and fail to win another game, I think they're doomed
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| At the end of day it is not us the fans that are at fault for what has happened at the Bulls but the fault of the people who have run the club over the past years, some one mentioned that the atmosphere at Odsal was like a funereal last Thursday and sadly I have to agree it was one of the worst Bulls Rhinos games I have attended, you guys didn't even have to put that much effort to beat us. I respect the Rhinos fans that want us to stay in Super League but find it sad that some of you want to see us go down, Leeds are in a very fortunate position to have a very rich owner in Paul Caddick which has allowed you to compete in SL and keep you financially stable, I wonder what would happen if he said one day "I'm no longer planting any more money into the club" would the Rhinos still be financially viable ?
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| Quote ="jsb1990"At the end of day it is not us the fans that are at fault for what has happened at the Bulls but the fault of the people who have run the club over the past years, some one mentioned that the atmosphere at Odsal was like a funereal last Thursday and sadly I have to agree it was one of the worst Bulls Rhinos games I have attended, you guys didn't even have to put that much effort to beat us. I respect the Rhinos fans that want us to stay in Super League but find it sad that some of you want to see us go down, Leeds are in a very fortunate position to have a very rich owner in Paul Caddick which has allowed you to compete in SL and keep you financially stable, I wonder what would happen if he said one day "I'm no longer planting any more money into the club" would the Rhinos still be financially viable ?'"
The Rhinos make a profit without any financial input from Caddick and have done for some time. Indeed Caddick has, on occasion, taken money out of the Rhinos to fund the Tykes/Carnegie.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"I have to agree with William Eve on that the Bradford v Leeds derby was built purely on the SL Bulls brand boom and their meteoric rise to being a power in the game circa 2000.This coincided with our slump which heightened the tension between the clubs.I started watching Leeds as a kid in the late 80's and back then 'Northern' were never seen as our main rival.Without the Bully Bully and razamataz and hanger on's that went with it, they were only pulling the hardcore faithfull of around 6k a week to games in those days, and seen as no more our local rivals as other West Yorkshire clubs like Halifax,Wakey and Fev.Infact, i would say Cas were seen as our main derby rivals in those days.
I wish them well with their recovery, but its very hard to see a return to those peak days a decade ago.'"
I'm a bit older.The main rival when I was a kid was Hunslet in the 50s they used to get 20k for the pre season Lazenby cup game.Harry Jepson told a group of us that for a while this fixture was discontinued because of the ferocity in which the players went about it that some were missing the start of the season because they got injured
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| Monday result says it all, 84-6 against half a Wigan side, what an advert for the comp. I fear it will only get worse. They will struggle to get enough point
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| After the 2004 GF, my favourite memory is for the home match v Bulls that same year. Never known an atmosphere like it when we stuffed them after years of being tormented by the likes of Jimmy and Robbie. Briefly, we had our own version of Wigan v Saints or FC v KR and Bulls v Rhinos in front of 20,000 was a spine tingling fixture. I miss all that buy know it will never happen again for Bradford as all the Bull Power hype was nothing more than, well, hype. As much as I couldn't stand them over the years, I hope they pull through on a secure footing this time round. I think we will never see the glory days of '96 to 2003 again.
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| There is only one person at the Bulls that I have any sort of pity for and that is Franny Cummins. He as a bunch of players who quite clearly are only interested in the next pay cheque and are devoid of any professional pride. On paper there are IMO four weaker squads(London, Wakefield, Widnes and Hull KR) in the competition.
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