Bulls deducted 6 points.

Makes last week's win at Wakey even more important now .

Sounds like the points deduction has influenced the prospective new owners into pulling ourt of the deal to buy the club. Very sad.
I blame Iestyn.

Maybe he should buy the club then

I've really lost all interest in the Bulls, and did so many months ago. The sooner they're put out of their misery and relegated the better.

I have lost track of all the recent financial ducking and diving over at the bulls.
By and large most bulls fans seem to feel they have had a raw deal. I am not certain about that train of thought .
One thing for certain it will not do the RL game any good whatsoever ,even if they avoid relegation they are finished as a super league club of any strength .

Can't really say I like Bulls fans much - when they were in there pomp a more arrogant set of supporters you'd be hard pushed to find but... this makes me sad, very sad.

I really can't see them coming back from this either on the field or off and Rugby League would be a lesser sport without them. I hope I'm wrong but I fear the worse.

I too have lost track of the numerous comings and goings and other shenanigans of late. Can someone explain to my small brain why they apparently have only been on half of the everyone else's Sky money?

I may be wrong but I thought that they have had it, they were just advanced it early to get them out of previous messes. Having not learnt past lessons they wanted £500k from 2015 allocation to get themselves out of this mess

As said on twitter by myself...

So BB2014 Ltd TUPE all the staff over to their pay roll, now drop their interest in club. Who will be paying their staff? what happens to the players? They can't be re-TUPEd back to a company (OKB) that's been made insolvent. Free agents?

Hard to see either what else the RFL could do and why this has come as such a surprise to the new board. However much they may like to displace blame to the RFL, the overall problems at Bradford have not been made at Red Hall.

That is completely wrong.When Omar Khan took over he had to agree to half Sky money for 2 seasons,600k for 2 seasons as opposed to 1.2 million per season like all other clubs get.That was purely to guarantee a place in Super League, other prospective owners were put off because there was no guarantee of Super League without agreeing to this,it was absolutely nothing to do with money given to previous owners, which by the way wasn't "given" it was money their were entitled to but asked for it early.

The 1.2 million that has been taken off the Bulls over 2 years had been shared out between the other 13 clubs over 2 years.So your club and every other club is just short of 100k better off over 2 years because if the Bulls troubles

The Super League clubs voted for this,although from what I believe your club didn't vote for it,but the RFL went with the majority

The RFL and greedy other clubs have also contributed to the mess we are in today,let's not forget that

Did the RFL not think that this was a bad idea at the time? The other clubs voted for it, not the RFL. They are such an easy target, but ultimately they are only involved because the club was in a mess in the first place.

The club was in a mess,no doubt about that.The 2 times other clubs had gone into admin,Crusaders and Wakefield,they were docked 4 points and no financial penalties.We were docked 6 points and docked 1.2 million quid.If the RFL had any idea how to run things whatsoever the financial penalty would never even if been mentioned in the first place so no vote for other clubs.The reason for taking 1.2 million of the Bulls was because the previous owners had left so much debt,so instead of sharing that 1.2 million between the creditors they share it out between all the other clubs,anybody tell me that's a governing body who knows what they are doing???

You don't appear to understand how SLE works. The RFL are only one vote, if the other clubs sensed an opening, as they would do because most clubs are run by idiots, there was little they could do to stop it as it is presently structured. But did Khan not open the door for it anyway, to secure the Bulls place in the league?

The original agreement to take a reduced cut was first suggested by OK was it not?
As a means to get assurances of them remaining in SL under the franchise system?
Also the RFL bought Odslum as to prevent them losing their home and that they had somewhere to play its easy for the fingers to be pointed elsewhere like the RFL and other SL clubs when in fact this meltdown started years ago by the likes of caisley and co spending what they didn't have.
It has since continually being mis-managed by various jokers and pretenders to eventually get to the state it is in now.

The bulls fans (and board) are a joke.

EVERYTHING is the RFL's fault. Even the secret loan, and the deal with the ground, apparently now they shouldn't have done that. Victim mentality.

I said it last week before this sh*t hit the fan.

The bulls can not support a super league team at the moment. Bottom line. So either they liquidate and build themselves back into a stable club from scratch in the championship, or this merry go round of new owners and then going into admin will continue for the foreseeable future.

It's unlikely the bulls will be a strong super league team again, so this whole stigma of ''we NEED bradford!

'' is rubbish. The current carcus of the ailing club is unrecogniseable from the late 90's early 00's powerhouse. Yeah, we could use a bulls from back then, but you have to remember since the the bulls were a powerhouse we have a much much stronger warrington and huddersfield, so it doesn't make any odds, sport is cyclical.

In summary, my feelings towards the bulls situation are [iimpassive[/i.

Theres been nigh on 10 years of continual mismanagment.

Beginning was the signining of iestyn harris

Signing of harris prompted exodus of star players

average players were signed on too much money

league performances dropped reducing revenue

ensuing league battle with harris was costing bradford money all the time while revenue was reducing

eventually after 3 or 4 years the belt buckled and 2012 happened.

This process happened gradually over years and it seems like no one throughout the whole thing sort of said ''sh*t, we're hemorrhaging money and we're making less money, we need to seriously look at restructuring the business''. Oh no, they only seemed to start thinking when admin was imminent.

The Bulls saga has been caused by repeated mismanagement at the club. Why is it anyone's fault but those who were responsible for running the club going as far back at Caisley with the Harris debacle?
For the blame to be laid at the RFL is just typical of the mentality of the so called Board of Directors. 6 points is not an unreasonable deduction bearing in mind the financial mess and the broken promises, it is not the first time that they have gone into administration.
No one at the Bulls seems concerned about all those creditors who have been left in financial trouble all they are bothered about is themselves!
Get real Bulls fans the glory days are gone forever, get used to playing in the Championship
As a money making venture the RFL could always lease the stadium to Bradford Council who could use it as a refuse tip

or better still fill odslum in and build the biggest aagrah/akbar's in europe

If the club had a pound for every time the ground has been called "Odslum" then we wouldn't be in this mess!

For what it's worth I always enjoyed those big derby games whether at Headingley, "Odslum" or in the Challenge Cup and Grand Finals of the early 00s (even the ones we lost). You may disagree but I think it's a shame we won't see such occasions again.

If you're revelling in our demise then that's your right but imagine how you'd feel if the boot was on the other foot? We have our share of asshole fans of course but I think for the sake of genuine supporters who have put good money into your coffers down the years with their attendance at away matches it would be appreciated if you could rise above the gloating.

Well said

I hope the Bulls find a way through this, but if I'm honest I'm not overly optimistic. I also remember the Derby games of the early 2000's fondly, they were IMO amongst the highlights of the season, great when we won and gutting when we lost. I fail to understand the rush, among some, to revel in the potential demise of this once great club. The loss of any professional club in RL is nothing to celebrate, IMO it diminishes the game as a whole and moves it further toward the sporting margins. The role of the RFL in this matter has not served the sport well IMO and appears to punish the loyal fans, players and all that work in the club, including those that have worked hard to try to put together the latest and now withdrawn financial rescue and change in ownership plan. Those who led Bradford to their current sorry state are long gone. I wish Franny and his squad all the best for the season and hope they make it to the end of the campaign.

Did anyone else think the statement from the proposed new owners that the penalty made relegation a certainty was a bit pessimistic? Will they finish 6 points ahead of London? Yes. So can they finish 6 points ahead of Wakey or Widnes? I think they can.

well said, pretty much sums up my feelings on the matter.