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| The constant bias towards Wigan from clark and carney is really getting on my nerves. It's so blatant they are not even trying to hide it anymore.Eddie & stevo time to go it's like watching the Muppet show
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| funny i all ways find eddie and stevo bias towards you as sicking, even when hull was dominating you stevo was still trying to say you was playing great.
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| The worst was when Wigan made a break in the first half and Clark had already deemed it a try despite the Widnes fullback being back to tackle the player who broke (can't remember who).
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| They couldn't have sounded any more depressed that we'd actually won!
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| Quote ="dubairl"funny i all ways find eddie and stevo bias towards you as sicking, even when hull was dominating you stevo was still trying to say you was playing great.'"
Eddie and Stevo have their moments but they aren't as bad as Clarke with his Wigan love......he's like a 14 year old girl talking about her love of One Direction.
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| Quote ="dubairl"funny i all ways find eddie and stevo bias towards you as sicking, even when hull was dominating you stevo was still trying to say you was playing great.'"
I didn't say Eddie & stevo were biased they are just clueless
I am talking about Bert & Ernie in the cherry & white
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| to be fair they both have a reason to be bias, imagine you had a good career at leeds and then started commentating would you not be bias when your team is going good? Im not saying phil not biased but its the exact same listening to eddie and stevo when it comes to leeds.
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| Quote ="dubairl"to be fair they both have a reason to be bias, imagine you had a good career at leeds and then started commentating would you not be bias when your team is going good? Im not saying phil not biased but its the exact same listening to eddie and stevo when it comes to leeds.'"
Think you'll find they are supposed to be impartial. clarke is the worst he must go through 5 pairs of underpants per match give him his P45 sky and retain some credibility
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| Quote ="unlucky 13"Think you'll find they are supposed to be impartial. clarke is the worst he must go through 5 pairs of underpants per match give him his P45 sky and retain some credibility'"
and your showing your bias right now if your not saying the same for eddie and stevo. the funny thing is i don't think clarke lies about anything he says just opposition fans don't like hearing it.
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| Quote ="dubairl"to be fair they both have a reason to be bias, imagine you had a good career at leeds and then started commentating would you not be bias when your team is going good? Im not saying phil not biased but its the exact same listening to eddie and stevo when it comes to leeds.'"
But Eddie and Stevo didn't play for Leeds
Can't believe I'm sticking up for Eddie and Stevo
Can't believe I'm sticking up for Leeds fans
I don't support Leeds
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| Quote ="dubairl"and your showing your bias right now if your not saying the same for eddie and stevo. the funny thing is i don't think clarke lies about anything he says just opposition fans don't like hearing it.'"
I am allowed to be biased I am a spectator and sky aren't paying me a fortune to be impartial !!!
And opposition fans don't like what he says because he talks crap
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| Quote ="unlucky 13"I am allowed to be biased I am a spectator and sky aren't paying me a fortune to be impartial !!!
And opposition fans don't like what he says because he talks crap'"
by crap i guess you mean not true? if so what has he said that isn't true?
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| The commentary is nowhere near as offensive as having to watch that fat pudding Wane celebrating with all the grace of Paulo DiCannio.
"Wane Cam" should be an option you can select or not select depending on wether you want to watch a big tw-t acting like a big tw-t.
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| Quote ="DHM"The commentary is nowhere near as offensive as having to watch that fat pudding Wane celebrating with all the grace of Paulo DiCannio.
"Wane Cam" should be an option you can select or not select depending on wether you want to watch a big tw-t acting like a big tw-t.'"
Don't worry, Wane celebration cam normally finishes around September time.
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| Quote ="DHM"The commentary is nowhere near as offensive as having to watch that fat pudding Wane celebrating with all the grace of Paulo DiCannio.
"Wane Cam" should be an option you can select or not select depending on wether you want to watch a big tw-t acting like a big tw-t.'"
or a passionate bloke being passionate about he's boyhood club, there is some wonderful leeds supporters.
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| If Phil Clarke wants lessons in how to conduct yourself with good grace and impartiality, he only has to look at Messrs O'Connor and McDermott. I've seen both involved in games that feature their former clubs, and while there may be people out there who are better at putting their thoughts across in the heat of the moment, not once have I ever heard either of them sink to Clarke's level of bias.
Anyone defending it on the basis that "oh well, he used to play for Wigan what do you expect?" is missing the point in spectacular fashion.
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| 100% agree AG.
Also watching Origin and listening to to the past greats of both sides none them show that amount of bias or bile.
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| Whatever happened to "all commentators to remaining impartial and unbiased when giving their views on a game"? Sure Murray Walker got a slating for hinting at being unbiased one race.
To be honest Radio Leeds is getting bad... that Jamie Bloom last night was ridiculous saying how you beat Leeds and the best way to catch Leeds out etc etc..... the whole thing has become a precesion now. I literally watched the SKY game last night with large parts muted!
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| I have just watched my recording of last nights widnes Wigan game, one of wigans try's was referred to the video official . The try was more or less identical to Danny Mc Guires disallowed try against Wigan , to my surprise Stevos said absolutely no try as its the same as Mc Guires in the magic weekend game.
Full credit to him, the try was awarded, as they say go figure.
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| Quote ="Backwoodsman"I have just watched my recording of last nights widnes Wigan game, one of wigans try's was referred to the video official . The try was more or less identical to Danny Mc Guires disallowed try against Wigan , to my surprise Stevos said absolutely no try as its the same as Mc Guires in the magic weekend game.
Full credit to him, the try was awarded, as they say go figure.'"
The term "1 rule for 1 team and 1 rule for another" is clearly applied here....
I thought Stuart Cummings was meant to be sorting out referee decisions?
Load of biased officiating to go with the biased commentary!!
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| Quote ="Backwoodsman"I have just watched my recording of last nights widnes Wigan game, one of wigans try's was referred to the video official . The try was more or less identical to Danny Mc Guires disallowed try against Wigan , to my surprise Stevos said absolutely no try as its the same as Mc Guires in the magic weekend game.
Full credit to him, the try was awarded, as they say go figure.'"
The "try" in question was the game changer for Wigan coming just after Widnes had a try ruled out that would have finished the game.
The Wigan dummy runner ran straight at the defender and collided with him. I guess what had to be decided was did the defender take the wrong runner or did the runner target the defender and take him out?
The dummy runner was so far in front of the ball it was inconceivable that the defender would consider him a possible ball carrier and you could see the Widnes defender didn't move towards him. In this case the Wigan runner targeted the defender and ran into him knocking him off balance. In a drift defence the Widnes player would have had plenty of time to shuffle sideways to take the ball carrier but he couldn't. That left the big hole for the Wigan player to run through.
The video ref looked at it several times and IMO made completely the wrong decision.
Wigan pass the ball behind dummy screening runners all the time and mostly they do not make contact with defenders, it's just good attacking play. The difference is obvious between a dummy runner confusing the defence and a dummy runner targetting and colliding with a defender.
The quality and consistency bing offered up by our officials sat in a box with all the time in the world to make a decision is frankly appalling.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"I think Cummins' way of putting it was "if the player receives the ball on the inside shoulder of the dummy runner and runs around the back to the outside shoulder, it's obstruction; but if he receives it on the outside shoulder it's fine."
Basically, you can pass behind the dummy runner, but you can't run behind him. It's pretty simple. The incident last night and against Leeds are completely different.'"
From the VT, and absolutely spot on.
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| Quote ="unlucky 13"The constant bias towards Wigan from clark and carney is really getting on my nerves. It's so blatant they are not even trying to hide it anymore.Eddie & stevo time to go it's like watching the Muppet show
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I find it quite funny that a Leeds fan is commenting on a game on t.v. when his own team are playing at home. If you had gone there you could have been eulogising about the return of a 35 year old instead of watching a young team (average age 21/22) stay at the top of the table.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I find it quite funny that a Leeds fan is commenting on a game on t.v. when his own team are playing at home. If you had gone there you could have been eulogising about the return of a 35 year old instead of watching a young team (average age 21/22) stay at the top of the table.'"
I also found it funny watching the anxiety among the Wigan fans and bench as they rather fortunately defeated an injury hit Widnes side.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I find it quite funny that a Leeds fan is commenting on a game on t.v. when his own team are playing at home. If you had gone there you could have been eulogising about the return of a 35 year old instead of watching a young team (average age 21/22) stay at the top of the table.'"
This leeds fan had family commitements last night "wife's birthday" and have spent fortunes following my team so in between burning the sausages on the Barbie I kept on eye on the telly watching the pies get 100 percent of the 50/50s
And listening to the clown clarke turning himself inside out with joy .
So up yours
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