Anyone else think we were f*cked when Kev was leveled?

As if he isn't held in high enough respect he played and tackled his heart out after that as if nothing had happened (I watched the game with a football fan and union fan and both were taken by his toughness after being sparko)




oh and FWIW I thought that, despite it being a clash of heads, Monaghan had plenty of time to pull out and should have been penalised (or even 10 mins). (and while I'm moaning Zak got a right clout in the chops in the chops when he dropped the ball on the kick return leading to warringtons (final?) try)

Agreed on all accounts ill take a better look when I've watched it back on tv

Yep, that's how I viewed both those incidents.

I've heard the Hall try in the first half should have been allowed. Watching again now so I'll see for myself soon.

Monaghan could have 'lessened' the impact if he had wanted to. And yes, Zak copped a good un when losing the ball. Glad we're not left bemoaning either of those decisions.

Not sure it should have been allowed but what I would say is that there was no difference whatsoever between the pass for the Hall no try and the J.Monaghan try!!

BTW - I much prefer moaning about decisions when we win...nobody can say it's soar grapes

I saw the Joel try again at HT and thought that was absolutely fine. It looked, from a distance, like the Bish one might have been a touch forward so maybe it evened itself up.

Bar the 2 decisions mentioned in a 10 minute spell in the second half I actually thought Silverwood had a very good game - he was helped by both sets of players as well

I also thought the pass for the Joel one was flat but I honestly can't see any diffidence that and the Hall one. Didn't see owt controversial in the BJB one (BTW I thought that was a soft try at first sight but when I saw a replay it was a very good finish...Bish stepped inside almost simultaneously to catching the pass and utterly wrong footed Riley)

I thought the Monaghan "challenge" on Sinfield was a disgrace. To say it was anything other than a deliberate attempt to injure Sinfield is naive to say the least.

On the other hand, see how Ryan Bailey 'celebrated' the last (Hall) try ?

Straight over and in the face of the resident Dog-Botherer on the wing .... Classic Bailey

TMFISL

Was sight right in front of it, he was in Michael Monaghan''s face not his brother. I couldn't stop laughing





I couldn't work out what it was all about at the time but only now have I remembered that it was Monaghan who knocked Sinfield out.

I thought Silverwood had a shocker.

Few challenges he didnt penalise Wire for and let them get away with not being square many a time

Watched first half now and I agree with all you say!

I don't think he's alone on that one. Go back to last seasons GF, and you'll be shocked at the number of times we weren't square at the PTB in the first 15 minutes of that 2nd half. I'd guess at times we were guilty of it tonight too.

probably true, but when he pinged us at end of the first half thought that was a shocker

FWIW I thought the Monaghan challenge on Sinfield was indeliberate and "committed". The Hall no-try and the BJB try were both on the edge of being forward and we got one and didn't get the other, so it's par. The Hardaker knock-on was plainly a bad decision, but Silverwood wan't defending our right wing on the next set. Fair do, Dickie had a pretty good game, particularly keeping his whistle out of his mouth for minor rubbish at the play-the-ball and refereeing to international standard. I don't know why they don't do that every week.

It's a funny one because I expect it is the same in every other game but because I stand side on I don't notice it. Always notice not standing square at Old Trafford!

I'll stick by my opinion that Silverwood had a decent game other than a 10 minute blip.

Very similar to the Wigan game where I though he controlled it very well but made a couple of shockers.

Absolutely agree with all this.

(Monaghan is not a McIlorum. Maybe a little late, but the malice wasn't there.)

Having just watched the last 20 minutes back on Sky+ the exact same thing just occurred to me. The GF comes round and there's a leniency on small offences at the PTB that don't have an effect on play, and the spectacle is all the better for it. Why they can't apply this common sense for the rest of the season I don't know.

Thought silverwood did a decent job, though the s around me couldn't see that. Constantly doing about players being in front of him, but not being he was taking them back 11 or 12metres.

and what about the punch on Zak that Warrington subsequently scored from! Where you Silverwood on that one ?

I thought that was a really odd decision - Wire weren't disadvantaged at all by the players not being square - in fact they got a good attacking kick away that Hall had to run dead yet it was, what, the only penalty for not being square in the game?!

Yep, think it was and those were my thoughts on that matter.

Easiest decision of the night that for me - Jonesy was the wrong side of the tackle, never mind square. He then tackled the dummy half straight away to attempt to slow the play down. Silverwood tried to play an advantage - when there was none he brought it back. Similar to the way he did for the Briers high tackle on Ablett.

I thought the M.Monaghan on Sinfield was late and should have been 10 in the sin bin it was unfortunate they clashed heads imo but late and the one on Hardaker was rdiculous and should have been called back by the VR.
The Pen against us the stroke of H/T was blatant but the number of times he ignored it was just as frustrating imo either penalise it or don't imo.
Anyway we deserved the win and the lads did us proud.