At last the official truth regarding his exit from Hull FC is out Some people never learn do they? www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html

At last the official truth regarding his exit from Hull FC is out Some people never learn do they? www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html

was common knowledge at the time, nice its been confirmed.
wonder if it was the first club he took drugs at, if you get my drift

I recall that there were occasional suggestions that we should sign him during our centre crisis last season. Thank god the people that run our club have a little more sense.

Only took 3 posts for someone to utilise an opportunity to post a holier-than-thou effort on behalf of the Rhinos club



Takes me back to 2004 when two Rhinos players were busted for ephedrine use. Slap on the wrist for both players because both had declared it's use whilst in camp with GB in order to overcome a flu/gastric virus... allegedly. Of course, it turns out it was being taken on a regular basis, and as a matter of routine immediately prior to each game by several Rhinos players during their 2004 title winning season. The truth has a tendency to come out when an autobiography is out on the market in the push for sales.

Thank god the people who run the club have huge brushes and incredibly thick carpets... if you get my drift.

It is to be hoped that Gleeson isn't cast adrift completely like Terry Newton was.

Agree on the last point

I note the substance in question in the 'cold cures' is one that the aussies refuse to put on the banned substances list

I don't expect anyone on this forum to acknowledge any drug cheating which took place at the Rhinos club in 2004, therefore your response is entirely predictable.

The last point goes without saying.

fkoff you argumentative git



I'll draw my own conclusions about that and other instances around that time

Just saying, it must be nice for the clearly superior Aussies not to worry about which cold cure to pick up when they have a cold, that's all

Likewise it only took three posts for you to get in your usual 'knock the rhinos' posting.

You are one sad person!

Who in their right minds are going to touch Gleeson in 18-36 months time ?

It wasn't being used as a cold cure by some Rhinos players in 2004. It was being used as a matter of routine on matchdays. If you're uncomfortable with this, take it up with Keith Senior.

I haven't suggested I am uncomfortable with it, far from it, nor seemingly are Aussie RL players or their governing body.

... and I suppose that because this unsubstantiated revelation appeared in an ex-Leeds player's autobiography then it must true.

Do you believe everything you read now???

I didn't expect you to be uncomfortable with rhinos players taking ephedrine as a cold cure. Of course, it's now been established they weren't taking it as cold cure but as part of a routine on matchday, despite claiming otherwise back in 2004.

Next stage of denial kicks in.

"SHOOT THE MESSENGER!!!"

I have denied nothing, I was simply asking if you, as an individual, believed everything that was put to print?

Not the brightest spark are you?

I'm surprised WADA could find time to deal with all these Rhinos players failing drug tests for ephedrine use, given its alleged widespread use throughout the season.

Unless of course the club were being covertly assisted by the RFL, UK Sport, the reverse vampires and the saucer people in covering up this fiendish plot.

A bit like Paul Cullen's statement a couple of years ago that drugs were rife in the game, which he very quietly backed away from when asked to put up or shut up.

Take it up with Keith Senior. That way, you get to shoot the messenger rather than attempting to shoot the messenger of the messenger and missing.

OK, let me rephrase. Do you believe that illegal substance abuse was rife among several Leeds players during the 2004 season?

If you do was this believe born from reading a certain ex-Leeds players autobiography?

Quote ="The Biffs Back"At last the official truth regarding his exit from Hull FC is out Some people never learn do they? www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html'" I'm sorry but did you read the article? No official truth and nothing has been confirmed. The RFL refused to comment, the UKADA refused to comment and the three individuals refused to comment. I assume the article is correct and the Journalist's prediction will come true (otherwise I doubt it would be printed) but to suggest this article is the official truth is somewhat premature.

Quote ="The Biffs Back"At last the official truth regarding his exit from Hull FC is out Some people never learn do they? www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html'" I'm sorry but did you read the article? No official truth and nothing has been confirmed. The RFL refused to comment, the UKADA refused to comment and the three individuals refused to comment. I assume the article is correct and the Journalist's prediction will come true (otherwise I doubt it would be printed) but to suggest this article is the official truth is somewhat premature.

There are several points to consider.

1. Senior and Bailey tested positive for ephedrine use in 2004.

2. They were both treated leniently and escaped lengthy bans on the basis they'd both declared it's use as a cold remedy. Other reports at the time suggest gastric flu which was doing the rounds of the GB camp in 2004.

3. Bailey's positive drugs test was immediately after the 2004 Grand Final.

4. Senior's positive result test was during the Tri Nations.

5. Senior now claims it was being taken routinely on a match day during the Rhinos 2004 season by himself and a few of the other Rhinos players, by one who wasn't detected after being drug tested on the Monday following the taking of the substance 3 days earlier on a match day. It was also taken routinely by another Rhinos player for weight loss, who also suggested it made him feel better.

Feel free to draw your own conclusions, even if that necessarily involves shooting the messenger(s).

Which Club do you Support again?

I would actually be more suprised if it came out that ephedrine wasn't rife in Rugby League.

Terry Newton claimed HGH was rife in RL, I for one believe that to be true. It would be nieve to think the Rhinos are and have been completely drug free - common sense suggests that is unlikely.

On Senior - he isn't the brightest in the world but if he really wanted to sell some books he should have named the culprits.

As Jeff said the really tragedy here is Terry Newton - the most gifted youngster I have ever seen in a Leeds shirt - felt he needed to take his own life.

Billy 'no friends' aka Swiftcorn a.k.a. AV etc.etc. gets his fix by churning out negative anti Leeds propaganda. He even made a negative posting on Christmas Day would you believe - how sad is that?

In this season of goodwill to all men let us have sympathy for the torment that this lonely individual has been going through since Leeds proved him so wrong in becoming the Champions once again. He like a vampire when dawn breaks disapeared into a self imposed retreat to lick his wounds and has now returned thinking we have forgotten. So whenever he offers his negative anti Leeds stuff, just switch the lights on and remind him of the recent achievements of Champions Leeds

Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year to our resident Tory 'Cut & Paste' thief