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| Reading between the lines it looks like he wants to go back to Newcastle but doesn't want to let Leeds in the lurch.
If GH was cool with him leaving he'd be off like a shot.
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| His comments about Diskin are interesting.
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to be fair I think we've covered this before on another thread as the news/speculation first broke in the Aussie press several weeks ago.
Reading between the lines of what the previous article I posted and what Bedsy has said in that interview IMO it's just a case of GH agreeing terms either by way of cash or replacement player.
I doubt we'll see him in a Rhinos shirt next year which IMO will be a big loss as given the hole we are in at the moment we need all the experience and commitment he brings week in week out.
I'd have much rather retained Bedsy for 2012 over the likes of Kylie and Kirke.
McShane looked really good early on this season and his interchange with Buderus worked loads better than it did with Diskin but IMO McShane has offered very little these last 6 or so games when brought on.
At the moment I'd prefer an extra prop (if we had any left at the club) on the bench over a 2nd hooker or at least an impact forward, but there again we're short of those as well given the demise of the once magical Ali and premature loss of Eastwood.
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to be fair I think we've covered this before on another thread as the news/speculation first broke in the Aussie press several weeks ago.
Reading between the lines of what the previous article I posted and what Bedsy has said in that interview IMO it's just a case of GH agreeing terms either by way of cash or replacement player.
I doubt we'll see him in a Rhinos shirt next year which IMO will be a big loss as given the hole we are in at the moment we need all the experience and commitment he brings week in week out.
I'd have much rather retained Bedsy for 2012 over the likes of Kylie and Kirke.
McShane looked really good early on this season and his interchange with Buderus worked loads better than it did with Diskin but IMO McShane has offered very little these last 6 or so games when brought on.
At the moment I'd prefer an extra prop (if we had any left at the club) on the bench over a 2nd hooker or at least an impact forward, but there again we're short of those as well given the demise of the once magical Ali and premature loss of Eastwood.
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| Quote ="Buderus"And it has been tough here. I was probably bought by a club that didn't need me. They had an established hooker, a great player, and I had to fight my way in. Straight away I went from being an 80-minute player to being a 40-minute player. That was tough, and I also had injuries. There were times I wondered whether or not I had done the right thing but it has probably prolonged my career and given me this opportunity to return if things work out."'"
The ball is in Hetherington's court. If Buderus leaves he's letting you know who made it possible. If Hetherington asks him to stay and honour his contract then I expect that is what he will do.
What a potential dilemma is in store between playing for Coach McDermott or Coach Bennett.
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"to be fair I think we've covered this before on another thread as the news/speculation first broke in the Aussie press several weeks ago.
Reading between the lines of what the previous article I posted and what Bedsy has said in that interview IMO it's just a case of GH agreeing terms either by way of cash or replacement player.
I doubt we'll see him in a Rhinos shirt next year which IMO will be a big loss as given the hole we are in at the moment we need all the experience and commitment he brings week in week out.
I'd have much rather retained Bedsy for 2012 over the likes of Kylie and Kirke.
McShane looked really good early on this season and his interchange with Buderus worked loads better than it did with Diskin but IMO McShane has offered very little these last 6 or so games when brought on.
At the moment I'd prefer an extra prop (if we had any left at the club) on the bench over a 2nd hooker or at least an impact forward, but there again we're short of those as well given the demise of the once magical Ali and premature loss of Eastwood.'"
I can see your point but think re-Mcshane the last 6 games you are being harsh.
I'm sure the numbers Yoda will put me straight but he's hardly played enough minutes imo to have a real impact added to the fact he's come on (wigan aside) to a team playing sh#*e with very little go forward.
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| The best swap would be Wayne Bennett at the Rhinos after he’s honoured his contact at the Broncos. I’d like Danny go for that!
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| Quote ="rhinoms"I can see your point but think re-Mcshane the last 6 games you are being harsh.
I'm sure the numbers Yoda will put me straight but he's hardly played enough minutes imo to have a real impact added to the fact he's come on (wigan aside) to a team playing sh#*e with very little go forward.'"
If you saw him come on against Wigan it's not a numbers man you need ... it's an optician.
McShane is in danger of becoming 3rd choice hooker at Leeds behind Buderus and Burrow.
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| Quote ="tvoc"If you saw him come on against Wigan it's not a numbers man you need ... it's an optician.
McShane is in danger of becoming 3rd choice hooker at Leeds behind Buderus and Burrow.'"
Ah yes i'd forgot that piece of coaching masterclass!
So when he's come on we're already playing cr@p.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"I can see your point but think re-Mcshane the last 6 games you are being harsh.
I'm sure the numbers Yoda will put me straight but he's hardly played enough minutes imo to have a real impact added to the fact he's come on (wigan aside) to a team playing sh#*e with very little go forward.'"
true regarding the lack if minutes but again I think this is the issue with our 2 hooker rotation policy that failed so miserably with Bedsy & Diskin.
In reality I think Buderus can/should play much longer minutes but because we have a 2nd hooker on the bench we are duty bound to bring him on. I know we've been rubbish for the most part but I've had the feeling watching that we go into even more of a lull when Beddy goes off and then our intensity in attack and defence seems to raise (in relation to dummy half) when Buderus comes back on and often by then we are already chasing the game?
I'm not sure the 2 'proper' hooker policy has ever or will ever work for us?
IMO we are much better with 3 props and another impact forward on the bench, if we had any left given we've got rid of two of our better props and the next 2 'cabs on the rank' are out on loan and we replaced the impact of Eastwood with Hauarki
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| The mere fact Buderus has come out and said what he has will put a lot of pressure on GH to let him go. He's basically said that he wants to return to Newcastle, but will honour his contract if Leeds make him. Good player or not, if he wants to be elsewhere he should be allowed to leave.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino" Good player or not, if he wants to be elsewhere he should be allowed to leave.'"
I might agree if it effects his committment and/or performance.
Some players would let it get to them and drop a gear or two, I haven't seen any sign of that yet. Leads the kick chase and the defensive line, hits harder than any of his fellow 'forwards' out there.
Judging by some of the recent performances he's one of the very few who looks likes he wants to be at Headingley at all.
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| Can't blame him. What does he want to stay here for in a losing side?
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| Wouldn't mind Junior Sau as a swap, we need a quality centre and he's OOC this year unless he's re-signed with them. Just not sure he'd want to leave. We'll probably end up getting fobbed off with Mad Dog MacDougal, more the age range GH is signing up lately, 30+.
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| Can anybody really blame him?
Any proven player worth their salt would be happier away from Leeds at the moment. The club is in dissaray.
Top players here at the moment, must realize that 2012 will most probably a deja vue of this season as it stands. And we can only hope that there is enough going on behind the scenes to try and make 2013 a springboard for going forward again.
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| I hope Danny gets his move, and GH shows us once again that the Rhinos brand is not simply a cash cow.
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| [i"And it has been tough here. I was probably bought by a club that didn't need me. They had an established hooker, a great player, and I had to fight my way in."[/i
At least he's honest about the situation. Good on him.
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| Quote I was probably bought by a club that didn't need me. They had an established hooker, a great player, and I had to fight my way in.'"
Indeed Exter. Not only that, he recognises what his fekkwitt Rhino acolytes refuse to accept.
I say let the guy go. Good guy, good player but has failed to provide the influence on this team one would expect from such a player.
Us the quota and cap space created on other more pressing needs.
Time to have a good long look at Liam Hood for the rest of this year if the coach has any nous.
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| If he wants to go let him. I've been a fan, and no doubt he would continue to give his all (he's clearly been on the horns of this dilemma for a while without it materially affecting his level of performance), but if he's going then we need to balance our performance level this year, with our need to explore the options for next year.
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| Quote ="G1"Indeed Exter. Not only that, he recognises what his fekkwitt Rhino acolytes refuse to accept.
I say let the guy go. Good guy, good player but has failed to provide the influence on this team one would expect from such a player.
Us the quota and cap space created on other more pressing needs.
Time to have a good long look at Liam Hood for the rest of this year if the coach has any nous.'"
I'd agree with most of that. Leeds should let him go - not because he isn't up to it I hasten to add, but more because I think Leeds need to start again from scratch next year (with McShane and Hood already in place in this position). I'd also like to see Buderus back at the Knights (my preferred NRL team) & finish his career on a high with them.
On the 'influence' side, I think he has provided sufficient influence for a player who only plays in 40 minute stints. Had Leeds signed the 80 minute version, I suspect his contribution would be more widely recognised. You are definitely right that Leeds didn't need him though.
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| One thing we can be sure of is Buderus will honour his contract at Leeds, should the club insist upon that. He's not the type of person who would sign a one year contract extension and then renege on it once he'd cashed in on something... like a testimonial for instance.
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| Got to disagree with those that are saying he has not done anything for the team and we didn`t need him.
He is sheer class playing in a poor Leeds pack be it down to how they are coached or how they are performing with some past their sell by date and others not up to it.
Those who are moaning on about how we did not need him are probably the same fans who were slagging off Diskin and McShane as not being good enough last season and the season before.
I agree maybe McShane and Hood are our future but to say we did not need Buderus is a joke.
We need him plus at least 2 more players in that pack oh and add a centre and a half back to that request please.
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| Quote ="chapylad"Got to disagree with those that are saying he has not done anything for the team and we didn`t need him.
He is sheer class playing in a poor Leeds pack be it down to how they are coached or how they are performing with some past their sell by date and others not up to it.
Those who are moaning on about how we did not need him are probably the same fans who were slagging off Diskin and McShane as not being good enough last season and the season before.
I agree maybe McShane and Hood are our future but to say we did not need Buderus is a joke.
We need him plus at least 2 more players in that pack oh and add a centre and a half back to that request please.'"
Even Buderus admits we didn't need him. We needed a quality centre, which is even more apparent now.
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"Even Buderus admits we didn't need him. We needed a quality centre, which is even more apparent now.'"
We may not have needed him at the time, that is possible. But the last two seasons would have been a hell of a lot worse without him. He has been a shining light in a fastly diminishing squad.
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