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SURELY, that means we're expecting the likes of Bailey, Delaney & Leuluai back?!

Given that we're without 4/5 forwards and have another one of them playing against us this week?!

Is it just me that thinks it would have been sensible, given the current run of form/luck/results, to leave Wakefield with as weak a team as possible this week?

I mean, don't get me wrong, Amor is no world beater, but it doesn't make any sense to me to give them an extra forward when we're short of weight in the pack as it is and it's them we're playing?!

How easy would it have been to say, "We're short this week as you know, we might be able to re-loan him out when we have people back but it'll be next week at the earliest!" Even if we didn't play him, let him train with us this week and Wakefield wouldn't have him.

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Not really, would rather see a competitive Wakefield Wildcats rather than a team being walked over.

I agree

...we need the points. We could let them have Kirke though



Actually it really doesn't make sense yet again does it ? Talented forwards loaned out whilst we persist in proven [iuntalented[/i individuals.

You did see Amor's attempt to step up to SL level last season, didn't you? He looked like a headless chicken.

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Oh I agree....but it does appear his performances have improved. Why else would Wakefield want to continue utilising his services ?

Would it have been better to have the likes of Ambler and Amor available this season instead of the likes of Cross and Kirke ?

Can't see the former option been a worse option personally and the club would have also had the bonus of a much better equipped young Leeds blooded [[iicon_mad.gifpfylcmxiplaying-[/i to kick on with into the coming seasons ahead.

I can feel a "Liam Botham" moment coming on

I'd rather see two points. All this moral "I'd rather beat a full strength side, because it feels sweeter" mumbo jumbo I just can't get on board with.

I'd rather walk all over them. It'll boost the points difference if nothing else. Not saying we will, in fact I'm sure we won't. I'm just saying, there's no room for morals, and "making other teams competitive", that's just tosh.

Bottom line is thus; Amor, what ever impact he may have on our squad, definitely improves the Wakefield squad. Why should we strengthen the squad of a team we're playing this week? We shouldn't.

So you would rather see them walked over every week ala Leigh's superleague contribution, rather than sending a few players to them, giving them players superleague experience, and helping another poor local club out. I know which bit I would choose, end of the day, its giving players like Kyle Amor and Luke Ambler the chance to play in superleague rather than being stuck in our reserves not gaining any of the much-needed experience to boost themselves and show the coach what they are made of.

I'm not thick (yes really!). I completely and utterly understand the advantages to loaning him out. Not only do I understand it, I also agree with it. I would much rather Ambler, Amor etc were playing against SL every week, and training along side other SL standard players (at Quins & Wakefield that bit's debatable!).

In terms of "helping another poor local club", no thanks. Couldn't give a monkeys about that. I agree with loaning players out for our reasons, to improve our players, not to "help them". (Woe is Wakefield. Poor old Wakefield.)

I just think there should be a "Non Competition" clause or something. Especially in terms of this week. We're light in the pack, and we're strengthening our opponents pack for them!? That's nuts.

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But they could have had that regular SL experience by being given priority at Leeds and having better faith in them.

Or do you think Cross and Kirke are better options for this season ?

Whilst I know what you're saying about Ambler/Amor instead of Cross/Kirke, I would even say I probably agreed... that's a completely different debate in its own right.

My debate is much simpler, should we be strengthening the squad of a team we're playing this week? or should we be weakening them as much as possible to gain the league points, and possibly boost our points difference? It's got to be the latter.

I agree. (Unless of course

Amor has been told where his true allegiance should be...and that he will be renumerated accordingly

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I would agree 100% with remarkable on this one, strengthen another side at our own expense, as hopie says another "Botham " maybe, i hope the club dont come to regret this come 5.00pm Sunday, Im not saying tha ka would be the difference, but our injury situation is dire at best and we are loaning out individuals and fowards at that !!, do you think that you think John Kear would do that boot on tother foot, not a chance, I know what he would say.

Im all for getting these guys experience but not at our expense even if they said yea you can keep kyle, however he will not be playing against us this week as part of the deal.

I will be dissappointred if we now do not have some forwards back in the team from injury, the club should expect to be questioned if we lose this game due to the arrogance of believing we can let a player play against us in our current sutuation and with our injuries at present.

I can just seen wigan loaning a player to saints and then letting him play in the next derby !!!!!!!!!!!!

I will be diss

I agree, and I would go further. By this I think we are understanding that Kylie and Bailey are back. Would it not be better to have a guy in who is playing, fit, and on form at the moment (judging by MOM last week), than a guy who has not played since last season.

Again, I'm not so much saying Amor should be playing for us over Bailey. It's a debate in its own right. Perhaps he should (although there's an argument that Bailey is always going to have a 'first game back', so that should probably be against Wakefield.) but more that Amor should not be playing for them.

Listening to some on here last season he was all written off without a chance of Super League rugby.

Funny old world.

Any clause forbidding him from playing would presumably have had to be written into the original loan agreement.

At that time, Leeds would have anticipated having at least three of Burgess, Cross, Bailey and Leuluai available for this fixture, all of whom they would regard as better players than Amor. If he's not good enough to get into your first team, why worry about having to play against him?

Relax.

It's only Wakefield.

Just like it was only Salford the week before last.

These fixtures exist to provide teams like Leeds with a breather, along with an opportunity to paper over the cracks.

Another meaningless SL fixture in the grand scheme of things.

Tee hee.

Eh? Where?

Would it have been better ??

....I really do have problems with this being and been (my achille's heel)

I'm not proclaiming Amor as the new JP. Nor am I saying he'd even get into our squad (even in its current state!).

Whatever Amor's impact on Leeds' squad, or Super League in general, is irrelevant. He improves Wakefield's squad. And it makes no sense whatsoever to improve the squad of the team you're playing against. Even if it is "only Wakefield".