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Rob Burrow, Ryan Hall, Ben Jones-Bishop, Danny McGuire, Jamie Peacock and Kevin Sinfield have all made the cut from the Leeds squad. Im assuming Danny and JP made it due to their early season form
Kallum Watkins has made the Knights squad.
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Rob Burrow, Ryan Hall, Ben Jones-Bishop, Danny McGuire, Jamie Peacock and Kevin Sinfield have all made the cut from the Leeds squad. Im assuming Danny and JP made it due to their early season form
Kallum Watkins has made the Knights squad.
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| I'm feeling particularly negative so after much consideration this is my response....
Just what we need!! BJB, Hall, Sinfield & Burrow to be unavailable for selection. Fantastic. Great news.
When is there a match??
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| It must be the first time 'Elite' and 'Brett Ferres' have been this closely associated.
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| Not that it means much in the long run, but just shows how thick as poop McNamara is.
How anyone can see Prescott as better than Patrick and Burgess is poor.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"I'm feeling particularly negative so after much consideration this is my response....
Just what we need!! BJB, Hall, Sinfield & Burrow to be unavailable for selection. Fantastic. Great news.
When is there a match??'"
Mid season against the Overseas All-Stars? I think that was confirmed. I havent been sleeping much recently and my IQ has dropped massively to about 142 so im not that sure.
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| One of the reasons Rugby League is ridiculed by the press is lack of promotion.
I wanted to plan end of season trips to watch the 4 nations games for me and the family, kids n all.
Guess what....no fixtures yet for any England game, with the 'Official 4 Nations' website offering tickets for last years tournament in Aus!
Only Rugby League
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| Quote ="tvoc"It must be the first time 'Elite' and 'Brett Ferres' have been this closely associated.'"
He has earned his place which is more than I can say for Callum Squatkins. Has he discovered imodium yet?
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| Ferres has never done anything positive out of the ordinary that I've ever noted.
Not sure what his inclusion in the 'Elite' squad has to do with Watkins selection for the reserve squad. Watkins' game still needs a ton of work but he's got something there to work with.
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| Have you conveniently forgotten Ferres' last-minute match-winning try for the Bulls at Headingley in April 2006 then ?
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| [iShontayne Hape and Lesley Vainikolo led the way as Bradford surged the length of the field. That set position for Stuart Fielden, Iestyn Harris and Paul Deacon to work the ball to =#FF0000Brett Ferres and the young second-rower – making his first senior start - plunged joyously over to seal the most dramatic of victories, 20-18[/i
It says something when his career highlight to date came on his full senior debut, the best part of five years ago.
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| The thing that gets on my nerves about this squad is the selection of likes of Danny Brough (Scotland) and the too pie eaters who have played for Ireland. Rugby league will continue to be the laughing stock of world sport until the rules are changed so that once you have represented one country, you can't play for another ever.
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| Does the omission of a certain Saints player confirm his departure from the world of Rugby League?
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| Quote ="Harrigan"superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=21184
Rob Burrow, Ryan Hall, Ben Jones-Bishop, Danny McGuire, Jamie Peacock and Kevin Sinfield have all made the cut from the Leeds squad. Im assuming Danny and JP made it due to their early season form
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Very disappointing to note the continued selection of players who were an embarrassment to the game in this country during the last World Cup.
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Mid season against the Overseas All-Stars? I think that was confirmed. I havent been sleeping much recently and my IQ has dropped massively to about 142 so im not that sure.'"
Perhaps with in been against the Overseas All-Stars they'll do the sensible thing and give SL a week off?! Although surely that would have to be planned in already and it isn't?!
Not sure what the uptake from the All-Starts will be but Buderus has said he'd be interested, Webb might stand a chance too.
Anyway, that would suggest that we COULD be without Burrow, Sinfield, McGuire, Webb & Buderus at the same time.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Ferres has never done anything positive out of the ordinary that I've ever noted.
Not sure what his inclusion in the 'Elite' squad has to do with Watkins selection for the reserve squad. Watkins' game still needs a ton of work but he's got something there to work with.'"
I thought selection in one of these squasds was the mark of quality? It was when we were discussing Broughton the other week wasn't it? Are you now saying very ordianry players can make these squads? That I would agree with.
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| We all have our opinions on these squad selections.
What Ferres has done to suddenly appear in the 'Elite' squad must have escaped my attention. If you believe different then perhaps you should say so.
Broughton (like Watkins) has the potential to develope into International class.
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| Quote ="tvoc"
What Ferres has done to suddenly appear in the 'Elite' squad must have escaped my attention.
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Especially when the likes of Atkins & Moore have only made the Knights squad!!
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"Very disappointing to note the continued selection of players who were an embarrassment to the game in this country during the last World Cup.'"
Indeed, unfortunately we haven't developed many less embarrassing players since then
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| Did I count 6 Leeds and 7 St Helens players in that Elite Squad? A rerun of the last (flopped) World Cup endeavour?
Okay which side was worse - last year's embarrassing collection of Young Players With lot's Of Potential or Tony Smith's elite corps of Leeds and Saints (We got along just fine) RL Superstars?
IMHO Tony Smith's England underacheived to a greater extent than McBanana's rag tag and bobtail outfit but in general terms the latter were worse than the former.
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| Quote ="rich86"Indeed, unfortunately we haven't developed many less embarrassing players since then'"
A comparison between England's performances and results down under in the 2008 World Cup and in 2010 suggest otherwise.
Thankfully... Tony Smith, Keith Senior, JJB, Lee Smith, Paul Wellens, Ade Gardner, Maurie Fa'asavalu, Rob Purdham, Mark Calderwood, Mickey Higham, Martin Gleeson, Jamie Langley and Paul Sykes were all been dispatched to the international rubbish bin... hopefully never to return.
The same ought to apply to Danny McGuire, Rob Burrow, Jamie Peacock, Kevin Sinfield, Leon Pryce, Jon Wilkin, Adrian Morley and Ben Westwood.
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| Quote ="Highbury Rhino"Did I count 6 Leeds and 7 St Helens players in that Elite Squad? A rerun of the last (flopped) World Cup endeavour?'"
There's 6 Leeds players and 6 St Helens players in that Elite Squad. You'd have thought we'd have learn't something from the acute embarrassment of the 2008 World Cup.
Quote ="Highbury Rhino"Okay which side was worse - last year's embarrassing collection of Young Players With lot's Of Potential or Tony Smith's elite corps of Leeds and Saints (We got along just fine) RL Superstars?'"
Tony Smith and his squad of superstar losers by plenty.
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| Quote ="tvoc"We all have our opinions on these squad selections.
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Quote Broughton (like Watkins) has the potential to develope into International class.'" What Broughton has done to suddenly appear in the 'Elite' squad must have escaped my attention.
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| Quote ="G1"
What Broughton has done to suddenly appear in the 'Elite' squad must have escaped my attention.'"
He scored a last minute try to bring Salford within 50 points of the Saints a week ago... how conveniently you forget!
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"A comparison between England's performances and results down under in the 2008 World Cup and in 2010 suggest otherwise.
Thankfully... Tony Smith, Keith Senior, JJB, Lee Smith, Paul Wellens, Ade Gardner, Maurie Fa'asavalu, Rob Purdham, Mark Calderwood, Mickey Higham, Martin Gleeson, Jamie Langley and Paul Sykes were all been dispatched to the international rubbish bin... hopefully never to return.
The same ought to apply to Danny McGuire, Rob Burrow, Jamie Peacock, Kevin Sinfield, Leon Pryce, Jon Wilkin, Adrian Morley and Ben Westwood.'"
Fair points Jeff but who would be your current 13/17 for England?
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