As someone who had Wilf as a sports master for a short time, I find these allegations quite astonishing. He was a really nice guy. www.myshtetl.co.za/media/news/jo ... %3B-report

As someone who had Wilf as a sports master for a short time, I find these allegations quite astonishing. He was a really nice guy. www.myshtetl.co.za/media/news/jo ... %3B-report

Whatever next, "Eddie Waring was Mafia hit-man" ?

amazing 'he's still a legend at headingley though

The Flying Dentist, a member of the mafia? What was hit line "you paya da money or I pulla your teeth...."

There’s a criminal underbelly element to everything in society.

even the people who won't work (or look for it) and still expect a state handout?

Where would all them staff be from the job centre be if it wasn’t for me (and the other two million out of the sixty million+ population we have in this country) signing on every two weeks. Where would the £150million+ A4e be, if it wasn’t for imprisoning the long term unemployed in their centres.

There’s a lot of employment in unemployment some may say..

Weak reply. You just can't be bothered to get out of bed. There are jobs if you bother looking. People have it to easy. I would have you working 40 hours a week cleaning pensioners gardens and if you didn't turn up you would get sod all

Find me a job cleaning up Pensioners gardens for 40 hours a week on the minimum wage and I’ll happily do it. There’s more people than jobs and that’s the problem.

Oh and people on the dole haven’t had it easy. They undertake workfare placements where you get paid £1.50 an hour at ASDA. If they don’t do these placements then they dole money is taken off them.

Take the dole money and go do it voluntarily, would even look good on a CV for when applying for jobs. Shows your not just happy to take the public money and do naff all to earn it!
As for there not being any jobs, complete tosh! If you didn't have handouts and a roof over your head, you would accept any job, any pay! The truth is, its too easy to take the dole money, because there isn't a job they fancy, or better still, there isn't a job they think is good enough for them! And it makes me sick!

Been there, done that and look where its got me!

Some people forgot that I regularly do a column on here that can class as voluntary work. But I don’t see it as work - more of an hobby. People get paid to do columns..



Is it too easy to take the dole money?

It took me at least a year to get over myself been on the dole. I looked for a jobs before I ended up at the job centre and turned to them when I had no other option. Circumstances might be better for the unemployed in the 21st centaury and its just a shame its at the expense of the worker. But who would help the unemployed if the government didn’t?

I know of other people who found it hard to get over themselves and join the dole queue. I know of someone who was nearly in tears because their parents wanted them on the dole rather than getting nothing.

Luckily that person has got a job now.

Heck one person killed herself because she couldn’t tolerate been on the dole queue anymore after a year and she even got turned down for a job at TESCO!

If anyone is taking the easy option its you attacking the easiest option.

Right I said before that I wouldn’t talk about unemployment on these forums anymore and unfortunately I couldn’t stop myself. So this is the last thread that I’m getting drawn into this ‘tired’ debate as I’d rather focus on more positive things.

All I want to say is that pound-for-pound the government spends 624 times more on adverts demonising ‘benefits cheats’ than rich tax dodgers – a sure sign that their priority is propaganda and not a genuine desire to balance the books. Now the government is neither gullible nor over-generous when it provides benefits for citizens. After all what’s £50 a week (that’s what I get) to a system that gathers in trillions in that same week?

The money that I’m paid comes out of the bond account that is set up in conjunction with my birth certificate when I’m born and registered as chattel of the corporation of the nation that I’m born in.

I was born in Great Britain PLC right?

The unemployment benefits payment is a contract I take out to not exceed a set payment from the bond account of the money that is actually mine. It is a con to get me to only take out small portions of the millions of sterlin that I have in a bond account so that I 'subsist' on the 'poverty line' and will be more inclined to get a job and therefore pay back the loan taken out against my future tax payments. In other words, unemployment benefits is a con job to stop me from accessing the millions in my bond account and a way of maintaining my servitude.

Why is my bond account worth millions?

You can’t put a price on life.

The person(s) with the most power runs this world and this is how they run it by making sure that people who they deem unworthy lead a life of struggle. The MI5 can give you degrees that you didn’t work for whilst everyone else spends years at University trying to gain them is an example of how corrupt this world truly is.

Like Michael Hutchence said -



If anyone can sort this mess out its Her Majesty whose the biggest landowner in the whole wide world today. She got this through inheritance rather than earning the land. Heck even if you buy your own house, she still owns the land underneath.

Finally I don’t blame today’s mess on her because it was all done way before her time. If I had inherited wealth like she did I’d sold all the Palaces and use the money to erase poverty and this con that I explained above. Unfortunately I can’t see her doing that too soon and I don’t blame her.

She’s old and she’s probably heard story’s of how the Mother Teresa’s of this planet end up not been looked after when they body’s can’t cope. In fact we’ve all probably know someone whose worked all their lives only to be treated like .

I'm a teapot.

Damo, just face the truth, you are a workshy lazy barsteward, and there are plenty on here who can see it...



Why are you wanting to get minimum wage for your dole money? You are not contributing to society and that's the main problem. I think you have deliberately misrepresented Tad's post, it's crystal clear that he is referring to you making a "non paid" contribution to society in return for your "hand out". There are countless "jobs" that you could do if the government set it's mind to making everyone contribute to society.

There is an old saying "You are either inside the tent pi55ing out, or outside the tent pi55ing in." Which do you think you and the 2 million other non workers are doing in a time of financial hardship for the nation?

A note of Appreciation from the rich -



So lets keep pulling each others hair out on here whilst the rich laugh all the way to the bank!

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hkJL6wRBE8Just for you Damo.[/url

Seems to me that you like the "communist dictatorship doctrine" rather than the world that we live in. I'm sure that this guy could find a place for you before he pops off...

do you prefer earl grey, breakfast tea, yorkshire tea or tetley tea?

as i am a tea cosy

My CV says otherwise.



I never wanted my dole money. I just happened to get it. But I want the minimum wage for when I’m doing a job like everyone else in this country. What I don’t want is £1.50 per hour working alongside people who are getting £5.80 per hour.

Soon they’ll have everyone on £1.50 per hour because place like ASDA can just get people from the job centre to work long hours for their dole money.

Why pay people the NMW when you can get people from the job centre to do just as much for nothing as the job centre pays for it.

There’s me but then there’s old people who have contributed to society and no longer do so. In fact old people have contributed years to society and still get treated like people who’ve contributed a couple of months to society.

How fair is that?



Like cutting the grass with scissors…

In America the system is a lot harsher than over here. For example The Texas governor has offered the unemployed two choices. They either buy a job or be grateful that they unemployed in Texas rather than another state in the USA.

Things have got so bad in America you can buy your own job



There’s going to be global unrest before long thanks to the mistreatment of the unemployed.



The Non Workers are providing the government a group of people for the working class to have a go at. The 2 million unemployed are they to make you feel grateful that you’ve got a job.Some people get a sick satisfaction out of the fact that they doing better than others.

Or the presenter of small-time American talent-fest 'The Gong Show' was a CIA agent ....

one of the marx brothers was a CIA agent. true story

John Wayne was a CIA agent too - true story

If your CV can confirm you are not workshy, then post it on here to prove to all your doubters that is the case. Of course if you don't / can't it will prove them all right.

With regard to the £1.50 per hour you got "paid" at ASDA, I simply don't believe you. That would be illegal as it doesn't meet the minimum wage legislation and you could therefore take ASDA to court. If, as you claim, ASDA are willing to replace their workforce who must legally be paid at least the minimum wage, with other "job centre" workers, that would lead to a lot of court cases, and a hell of a lot more costs than paying the minimum wage to their staff. It is not in any companies interests to be dragged into litigation for failing to comply with the employment law, so I find your claim very hard to believe.

By the way if you were willing to work, you would be working for Serge Storms company now as he offered you a position in the warehouse a couple of weeks ago.

You make a flippant remark about "cutting grass with scissors", but what's the problem with making a contribution to society for your free handout? I don't suggest it has to be demeaning, but you seem to think its perfectly acceptable to "sponge" off society without having to contribute. It is simply ridiculous that you insinuate we should all pity you because it "took you a year to come to terms with being on the dole". Get a grip. You might pity yourself, but don't expect everyone else to feel sorry for you.

Oh and if you don't want your dole money, why take it? Are your principles so cheap that they can be bought with what you have already confirmed is £50 a week?

Spot on batley! There are thousands of pot holes in the roads that its claimed will take 10th years to fix. Why not get the benefit takers trained up to do the job?
Again as for there being no jobs, there is loads of agency work out there, particularly in warehouses, problem is people believe its below them, even though they've been claiming for months, or even years. The truth is they'd rather take the easy club from the government than put in some hard graft, admittedly for not much more money. It's all down to values and pride. There are workers and there are spongers.
And if you ate taking the dole money, why not do voluntary work for a charity or hospices. Surely that Will give some pride and senae od achievement, along with helping people who really are in a worse position than you!

Hasn't taken a Tory government that long to brainwash the fairly dim aspirational middle classes to believe all the ills society suffers are caused by the benefit classes.

Let me remind Batleyrhino and Superted that the current economic meltdown was caused not by benefit seekers but the kind of white collar, thatcherite "workers" that bats and superted probably admire.

And I don't class fekkless, mentally challenged, internet attention seeker damo as part of the benefit classes. He's one on his own, shall we say.