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| Mcguire should be a contender IMO.
Been awesome for us this season, consistently comes up with class plays.
Thing is, is it just me or do leeds player never really get the recognition they deserve at these? Overlooked everytime.
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| Well from what I read on the VT we are a shiite club with crap players and an awful coach. Making our 3 championships in a row all the more remarkable.
As nice as winning one of these would be I expect it to go to a Wigan or Saints player, like usual.
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| It'll be a Wigan player this year - Pat Richards maybe....
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| Quote ="El Pac Carnegie"Well from what I read on the VT we are a shiite club with crap players and an awful coach. Making our 3 championships in a row all the more remarkable.
As nice as winning one of these would be I expect it to go to a Wigan or Saints player, like usual.'"
Yup.
But sinfield, burrow and mcguire have been consistent performers at the highest level for nigh on a decade winning nearly every honour in the game. Yet at the MOS awards the are almost annualy overlooked every year.
And now eddie wants to give it to this young upstart tomkins whos beena round 2 minutes and as yet has achieved nothing in the game.
I bet it goes to tomkins.
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| Quote ="marcel"I bet it goes to tomkins.'"
The try yesterday was class and the celebration topped it (a fitting tribute to Gary Mercer at the Shay in '98 I think it was)
His 'match saving tackle' a few minutes later was less impressive though and marked him out as a work in progress.
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| Eddie is a tool though! Lockers as been awesome for us but it would seem that Pat Richards could be nailed on! Whoever wins it will deserve it pretty sure the players will get it right!!
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| Pat Richards or Roby as a dark horse imo.
It's traditional now that we don't get the individual accolades we just pick up the team ones!
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| Pat Richards will get it, but Danny McGuire has had a bluddy fantastic season and improved his all round game whilst being even more devastating in his instinctive impressive support play. He certainly deserves this year's trip down under as first choice SO to Eastmond's (Myler's or even Burrow's - if he continues to build on his recent form -) SH. Tomkins can battle it out with Widdop for FB.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Pat Richards will get it, but Danny McGuire has had a bluddy fantastic season and improved his all round game whilst being even more devastating in his instinctive impressive support play. He certainly deserves this year's trip down under as first choice SO to Eastmond's (Myler's or even Burrow's - if he continues to build on his recent form -) SH. Tomkins can battle it out with Widdop for FB.'"
Based upon his abysmal international performances for England in the World Cup of 2008 and the Four Nations of 2009 before being summarily dropped from the team, Danny McGuire has some way to go yet before warranting a first choice recall.
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| Pat Richards by plenty
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| I'm a Roby man myself.
The reason our players don't get the individual recognition though is because we share the workload and are a good team.
That said, McGuire has been head and shoulders above any other Leeds player this year playing predominantly at 7. He's the best scrum half in SL IMO and I have started a few threads about that this season. I'm happy others are now seeing this
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"Based upon his abysmal international performances for England in the World Cup of 2008 and the Four Nations of 2009 before being summarily dropped from the team, Danny McGuire has some way to go yet before warranting a first choice recall.'"
Condemn him forever why don't you ? Lock him up and throw away the key.
On CURRENT form he is the best we've got in SL.
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| Man of Steel has now been downgraded IMO. It's nothing more than a glorified popularity contest these days.
Lets say next season the three best players are Jamie Peacock, Willie Mason after a great year at Hull KR and Leon Pryce. Just who do we think might win that?
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"Based upon his abysmal international performances for England in the World Cup of 2008 and the Four Nations of 2009 before being summarily dropped from the team, Danny McGuire has some way to go yet before warranting a first choice recall.'"
Are you for real!
He has been far and away the best half-back in SL this year by a long way. Tomkins is a great player but as tvoc states, he still needs some work and more importantly he has played most of the season at FB and that is exactly where I would play him for England with Danny first choice 6/7. That combination really does excite me with Danny at one of the half's & Tomkins at FB. The other half for me is still very up much up for grabs but if Eastmond is able to look the part again in the last few games, then that would be my call.
Lets face it Wellen's is past it at international level, he lack of pace at that level was so obvious and such a problem for England last year. Danny, Tomkins & Eastmond (if he shows form) in the starting 13 is the way to go!
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Lets say next season the three best players are Jamie Peacock, Willie Mason after a great year at Hull KR and Leon Pryce. Just who do we think might win that?'"
James Graham.
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| I don't get it, every time Leeds have been on their butts, Sinfield has muscled up and hauled them back into it by their bootlaces. He's moved about the pitch barking orders like a crazy person , complimenting Buderus all the way. He's been tackling like a machine, marshalling the forwards, launching backs all over the place, has picked up some of JJB's workload on the donkey work, and has an almost "Botica-esque" kicking accuracy.
And yet still, "Man of Steel", Danny Macguire? Talk about Leeds fans missing the point.
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| Quote ="loinertillidie"I don't get it, every time Leeds have been on their butts, Sinfield has muscled up and hauled them back into it by their bootlaces. He's moved about the pitch barking orders like a crazy person , complimenting Buderus all the way. He's been tackling like a machine, marshalling the forwards, launching backs all over the place, has picked up some of JJB's workload on the donkey work, and has an almost "Botica-esque" kicking accuracy.
And yet still, "Man of Steel", Danny Macguire? Talk about Leeds fans missing the point.'"
Would you like to read the thread again mate, you are normally very observant, but know one other than Marcel did actual say Danny M for MOS. I think Pat Richards but I was just responding to the comment by another poster about Danny in general.
I think you were harsh and you are the one missing the point...
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Are you for real!
He has been far and away the best half-back in SL this year by a long way. Tomkins is a great player but as tvoc states, he still needs some work and more importantly he has played most of the season at FB and that is exactly where I would play him for England with Danny first choice 6/7. That combination really does excite me with Danny at one of the half's & Tomkins at FB. The other half for me is still very up much up for grabs but if Eastmond is able to look the part again in the last few games, then that would be my call.
Lets face it Wellen's is past it at international level, he lack of pace at that level was so obvious and such a problem for England last year. Danny, Tomkins & Eastmond (if he shows form) in the starting 13 is the way to go!'"
He's played the last 6 games at FB cos Amos isn't fit. He's a work in progress at FB, but imo is the best 6 in the league still. Mcguire has been good this year, but i'd rather stick with the combination of Tomkins/Eastmond/Widdop, or use Myler if Widdop doesn't play. I'd like to think they'd start building the team now that could be together for a few years yet.
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| I suspect Pat Richards will win it and probably deservedly so.
It is galling that a team that has set such standards has had no individual recognition but I'd certainly rather have the three consecutive titles (and hopefully four) than any individual awards.
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| I'm going to stick my neck out and say that I agree with marcel. McGuire has certainly been Leeds' best player this season, followed by JP and Sinfield.
Pat Richards will probably win it and he would be a deserved winner. Roby is also a credible candidate (more so than the season he won it IMO). The players vote for it ATEOTD and it's a question of who do they respect and fear playing against? McGuire does have a knack for making crucial plays at crucial times. He'll be there or thereabouts.
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| Quote ="G1"I suspect Pat Richards will win it and probably deservedly so.
It is galling that a team that has set such standards has had no individual recognition but I'd certainly rather have the three consecutive titles (and hopefully four) than any individual awards.'"
And I'm sure the opinions of the players will be the same.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Condemn him forever why don't you ? Lock him up and throw away the key.
On CURRENT form he is the best we've got in SL.'"
Some players step up at international level, others don't.
On current INTERNATIONAL form Tomkins is the best we've got, followed closely by Eastmond. Those two have performed well enough to have earned their opportunities for an extended run and stake their claim as current halfback incumbents for England. They should both be ahead of McGuire in the pecking order right now.
McGuire has had plenty of opportunities at international level and he's performed poorly over a significant period of time. Should Tomkins or Eastmond perform as poorly as McGuire has done at international level over a similar period of time, I'd expect them to be replaced too. And if that should happen, McGuire may warrant further opportunities.
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| Quote ="G1"I suspect Pat Richards will win it and probably deservedly so.
It is galling that a team that has set such standards has had no individual recognition but I'd certainly rather have the three consecutive titles (and hopefully four) than any individual awards.'"
Correct.
In Leeds case, the team (whole) is greater than the sum of it's parts.
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| We will never have a MOS in leeds colours it's not allowed if they could take our Grand finals off us they would, If and I know it's a big if we went on to take this years grand final none of the Sy commentators (Barry mac excepted) would accept we had been the best team this century. I'm not paranoid but that dosn't mean they are not out to us
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Are you for real!
He has been far and away the best half-back in SL this year by a long way. Tomkins is a great player but as tvoc states, he still needs some work and more importantly he has played most of the season at FB and that is exactly where I would play him for England with Danny first choice 6/7. That combination really does excite me with Danny at one of the half's & Tomkins at FB. The other half for me is still very up much up for grabs but if Eastmond is able to look the part again in the last few games, then that would be my call.
Lets face it Wellen's is past it at international level, he lack of pace at that level was so obvious and such a problem for England last year. Danny, Tomkins & Eastmond (if he shows form) in the starting 13 is the way to go!'"
England have just taken a punt on Gareth Widdop at fullback and I'm more than happy to see fresh talent given it's opportunity. So let's ditch Widdop at fullback in order to accommodate Sam Tomkins there instead, just so that one of your favourite Leeds Rhinos players can be accommodated at halfback, despite his wretched international performances over a lengthy period of time? That would make absolutely no sense to anyone blessed with a rational mindset.
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