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| Read it [url=http://leeds.rlfans.com/readarticle.php?article_id=1429here[/url.....
Warning for those 'ever-so-sensitive' Giants fans, it is probably a bit biased!
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| Whilst we were far from our best but the effort was a vast improvement from last week imo some weak defence for the Patrick and Lunt tries and i thought the officials dropped 2 howlers for both Hodgson tries.
I thought Mcshane was better than last week,Kylie ran and hit hard as did Peacock and Clarkson is looking really comfortable at this level.
Worrying to see Ablett go off injured and i think Kirke and Smith were awful defensively.
We won that's the main thing and hopefully we can build on that for next week and the likes of Burgess,Kylie and Ali will be better for the run out.
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| To me, Bentham was a bit picky on us, but we got away with a couple of very forward looking passes. Swings and roundabouts, I suppose.
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| With regards to the two Huddersfield tries in the second half, my first instinct when seeing Lee Smith leave the ball that really needed to be dealt with was that it was a try, however the reaction of the players makes me really want to see that one again. It was close anyway and what Smith's play deserved.
I'm pretty sure there was nothing wrong with the second Hodgeson try, looked like it went backwards to me.
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| Quote ="onewild"With regards to the two Huddersfield tries in the second half, my first instinct when seeing Lee Smith leave the ball that really needed to be dealt with was that it was a try, however the reaction of the players makes me really want to see that one again. It was close anyway and what Smith's play deserved.
I'm pretty sure there was nothing wrong with the second Hodgeson try, looked like it went backwards to me.'"
I thought Smiths boot had touched it and it was dead on the in goal line and was expecting a drop out but i'm sure it definately wasn't a try and until Thaler gave it Hodgson didn't even appeal.
For the 2nd one the pass was in line where we stand and i personally thought it was a clear knock on and have seen so many of them given as such.
I'll be happy to admit i'm wrong though when i see boots 'n' all the tries.
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| The number of forward passes which were allowed should be an embarrassment for Mr Thaler, other than that he went pretty well
Soft tackling and a basic mistake on clearing a kick lead to us conceding too many points again, three goes to get a drop goal summed it up for me, almost like we are avoiding scoring points
Salford comment is spot on!
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| Quote ="Hopie"The number of forward passes which were allowed should be an embarrassment for Mr Thaler, other than that he went pretty well
Soft tackling and a basic mistake on clearing a kick lead to us conceding too many points again, three goes to get a drop goal summed it up for me, almost like we are avoiding scoring points
Salford comment is spot on!'"
The thing that puzzles me re-forward passes tonight is are the touch judges seeing and calling them only for Thaler to ignore them? or are they all ignoring them and are that blind?
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| Does anyone know what happened to abb? And what his situation is?
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Does anyone know what happened to abb? And what his situation is?'"
Looked like his thigh to me mate.
He was trying to jog up and down the touch line late in the 2nd half with his thigh heavily strapped.
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| Quote ="onewild"With regards to the two Huddersfield tries in the second half, my first instinct when seeing Lee Smith leave the ball that really needed to be dealt with was that it was a try, however the reaction of the players makes me really want to see that one again.'"
I was stood on the western terrace exactly in line with it. It was well in, maybe a foot, not the metre that Broughtook the kick from mind. It was almost surreal how it happened.
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| Actually quite a neutral match report.
Sounds like it could have gone either way. Leeds did what they do well which is not give up until the hooter goes.
Based on the Wigan V Warrington match Leeds will win nothing this year.
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| Quote ="wigsey"Actually quite a neutral match report.
Sounds like it could have gone either way. Leeds did what they do well which is not give up until the hooter goes.
Based on the Wigan V Warrington match Leeds will win nothing this year.'"
Yet despite all our injuries/loss of form we've beaten both including the "double" over Wire!
I wouldn't base the buisness end of the season on 1 friday night game in mid-july very naive at best.
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| What concerns me more regarding the Hodgson try was the fact as Hodgson apparently scored the try the touch judge was already waving his flag and indicating a tap 20 restart yet the ref ignored this
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Looked like his thigh to me mate.
He was trying to jog up and down the touch line late in the 2nd half with his thigh heavily strapped.'"
Doesn't sound too bad then, maybe a dead leg(let's hope it's not as bad as sinis)
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| Quote ="bewildered"What concerns me more regarding the Hodgson try was the fact as Hodgson apparently scored the try the touch judge was already waving his flag and indicating a tap 20 restart yet the ref ignored this'"
Yep and he didn't even claim it until Thaler and the in goal judge(who was further away) gave it.
They were laughing like fook and they knew it wasn't a try imo.
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| Quote ="wigsey"Actually quite a neutral match report.
Sounds like it could have gone either way. Leeds did what they do well which is not give up until the hooter goes.
Based on the Wigan V Warrington match Leeds will win nothing this year.'"
well "leeds will win nothing this year"I seem to recall we have heard ,read that statement quite a few times during the last 3 years
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Kylie's comment about "getting the semi out of the way" wasn't encourageing. Does this mean we can expect poor performances all the way up to the semi, then all the way up to the final (if we get there)? This team has had real difficulties focusing on more than one competition at a time. One of the few weaknesses they have shown over the last few years. If it's not the WCC at the start of the year it's the CC until they get knocked out.
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Kylie's comment about "getting the semi out of the way" wasn't encourageing. Does this mean we can expect poor performances all the way up to the semi, then all the way up to the final (if we get there)? This team has had real difficulties focusing on more than one competition at a time. One of the few weaknesses they have shown over the last few years. If it's not the WCC at the start of the year it's the CC until they get knocked out.
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| Fair enough is that, it didnt seem biased to me
the ref missed a lot for both teams tonight and as i was behind the sticks i couldnt see side on and it looked like Leeds got away with a couple of forwards ? please be honest answering that one !!
oh and BTW Hodgson didnt touch the ball from where we were stood - we only wanted a drop out
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"Fair enough is that, it didnt seem biased to me
the ref missed a lot for both teams tonight and as i was behind the sticks i couldnt see side on and it looked like Leeds got away with a couple of forwards ? please be honest answering that one !!
oh and BTW Hodgson didnt touch the ball from where we were stood - we only wanted a drop out
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the game had it's usual flat balls and a few forward. Same as you get week in week out. The pass/off load to Lunt for his try was a shocker. Leeds should have got a tackle in on him before he scored though.
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| From my position in the South Stand Smith got as close as he could to the ball to guide it out which caused him to touch it with his leg. The next contact the ball had with anything was the touch in goal line. It should IMO have been a drop out which meant all the officials got it wrong (I'll happily be corrected when I see a replay but if I'm right it's shocking that I saw that from 50 m away and the officials all got it wrong).
On the knock on for the next try it's a tough one. Technically I think the ball went backwards from his hand although he will have certainly have propelled the ball in a direction further forward than it was going to be. It wasn't one that obviously went through his hands. I rather see these given as knock ons but to be fair to Thaler he was consistent - Senior did the same thing in a similar position in the 1st half.
Some of the forward passes in the 2nd half down our left hand side were embarrassing - one to hall on about the half way line must have gone at a 30 degree angle. I though I counted 3 including one in the build up to the final try.
One last point - why when Ali passed the ball after Thaler had called held was it a scrum and not a penalty? Is it some kind of accidental law as he clearly hadn't heard? The same as accidental offside would be a scrum?
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| Was it my eye sight failing me again or did McShane kick a 40 20 and the scrum was given to Huddersfield? Looked pretty close to me.
Again, we've played poorly and found a way to come away with the 2 points.
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| he was well putside the 40 when he kicked it.
can't comment on the hodgeson try as it was at the far end, but smith was appalling all night. why didn't he kick it into the stand? lets hope a good pre season will bring back his pre union form.
clarkson gets better and better, he is going to be some player.
i thought it was a play off type game,good defence and a tough game. overall i thought we edged it and has been alluded to the likes of kylie,burgess and ali will be better for the run out
and i don't think we were poor, that takes a lot of credit away from the giants.individuals were poor but as a whole it was a decent display
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| Quote ="Glenn Quagmire"Was it my eye sight failing me again or did McShane kick a 40 20 and the scrum was given to Huddersfield? Looked pretty close to me.
Again, we've played poorly and found a way to come away with the 2 points.'"
Standing dead level with Mcshane for 40/20 kick and he was just outside our 40 one call Thaler did get right.
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