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| this was completely accidental all players kick ther legs to try get a quick play the ball from seniors position on the ground he could not even see tomkins
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| Yes there was no intention by Senior, just unlucky the guy got caught. BBC and Davis gave it some airtime in their post match analysis, though no mention of the dangerous tackle on Delany in the first half though. cant remember who the Wigan player who did it was but Im assuming it will be a trip to Red Hall for a two match ban?
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| Total accident and anyone who thinks it wasn't is clueless
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| It's not exactly the first time Leeds players have been caught kicking out at Wigan players in a high profile match is it?
Lee Smith's stamp on Phil Bailey's face in '08 for example.
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| Quote ="Hacked Off"Yes there was no intention by Senior, just unlucky the guy got caught. BBC and Davis gave it some airtime in their post match analysis, though no mention of the dangerous tackle on Delany in the first half though. cant remember who the Wigan player who did it was but Im assuming it will be a trip to Red Hall for a two match ban?'"
dont be silly, granted the tackle was bad, but not worth a two match ban, imo it was accidental and coley never meant to spear him, just to drive him back.
I also disagree with the "late" challenge on mcguire, liam farrell clearly jumped to block the ball, and jumped into mcguire on purpose. Mcguire milked it, and got a man sin binned.
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| Quote ="JonnyBates"dont be silly, granted the tackle was bad, but not worth a two match ban, imo it was accidental and coley never meant to spear him, just to drive him back.
I also disagree with the "late" challenge on mcguire, liam farrell clearly jumped to block the ball, and jumped into mcguire on purpose. Mcguire milked it, and got a man sin binned.'"
Indeed. was Brent Webbs tackle against Warrington really worth two games then?
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| Quote ="V For Vendetta"It's not exactly the first time Leeds players have been caught kicking out at Wigan players in a high profile match is it?
Lee Smith's stamp on Phil Bailey's face in '08 for example.'"
Define 'Stamp' please.
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| Quote ="V For Vendetta"It's not exactly the first time Leeds players have been caught kicking out at Wigan players in a high profile match is it?
Lee Smith's stamp on Phil Bailey's face in '08 for example.'"
I believe they practice it in training. They have tackle dummies with the faces of Wigan players cut out and stuck on.
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| Kicking out at the tackle is illegal though isn't it? ( correct me if i'm wrong)
That was a big kick motion though, certainly bigger than most you see.
It was definitely accidental though so it would be hard to justify sin-binning him.
However if it was a player from your own team being kicked you'd want somebody walking for a kick in the face.
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| Quote ="Loop"Total accident and anyone who thinks it wasn't is clueless'"
Take a look on the Wigooon board, "Many, Many clueless mo-foes on there".
Well done from a Wire, was cursing your "go for goal" tactics throughout the game, but am more than happy to be proven wrong. Toughed that out "Big Time" for 78mins, then came up with the big play when it mattered, congrats to Leeds!!!
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| I thought Senior was unlucky to be penalised, penalised because it connected.
For me Coley's tackle was worse than Mounis, so if theres any consistency, then he should receive a ban too.
I thought the ref had a good game generally, with a few decisions maybe incorrect but going both ways.
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| For me the fact that Senior kicked out so hard was entirely due to frustration at the Wigan tactics of constantly holding down and slowing the PTB. Fair enough, he caught Tomkins but not on purpose, he was just kicking out to try and show that he felt he was being impeded. If the ref had clamped down on the lying on in the first place, then it wouldn't have happened.
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| Just got back and p[size=100i[/sizess wet through. - Did anyone catch the penalty count - there seemed to be a blow up every couple of minutes?
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| Last I heard there were 23 penalties, but there were a fair few after that.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Last I heard there were 23 penalties, but there were a fair few after that.'"
As soon as it hits the iPlayer I'll watch it back - didn't bother recording it as the BBC's coverage really winds me up.
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"As soon as it hits the iPlayer I'll watch it back - didn't bother recording it as the BBC's coverage really winds me up.'"
I don't blame you
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| It was a penalty and it was dealt with correctly at the time, not much else to say on the matter IMO.
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| thers always talking points in games but people remember the incidents to the losers than more incidents that happend to the winners stop crying and get on with it it was a cracker of a game
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| It was a cracking game to watch as a neutral but though there was too much involvement from the ref.
Thought the sin binning of Farrell was harsh as the kid was commited and in the air when McGuire put the kick in. How is that worth 10 minutes and Peacocks high tackle not? Rules need tweaking IMO.
The Senior incident the ref got right it was a penalty though there was absolutely no malice from Senior but what he did counts as dangerous play. That said I thought the game was played in the right spirit by both teams making the high penalty count a tad baffling.
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| 10 minutes I thought, the player should safeguard others & Senior kicked out far too high & with plenty of venom knowing full well it could be considered an accident. The fact he came over all 'soz mate' probably saved him from the yellow. Great acting keith!
As for the comment Senior kicked out in frustration at Wigan's holding down it was the same from both sides, didn't think it was too bad throughout to be honest.
Ultimately Wigan should have won the game but didn't because they made seriously sloppy errors at the end of the game & Bentham made some critical errors including the non penalising of Leeds just before half time when not one player had a single foot behind the goal line on the last play of the half yet penalised Wigan for the same thing?
Still super exciting match.
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| Penalty for kicking out in the tackle ....... correct
No sin-binning as it was accidental and therefore not dangerous play.....correct.
RFL jumping on the bandwagon next week and issuing a directive coz it was on telly...100% YES!
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| (althouhg a swift kick in the head might discourage wigan players from lying on and trying to slow the play down!!!!!)
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| Althought it was completely accidental with no intention, it is a problem in the game which needs to be sorted out.
Remember we lost Sinfield in the WCC after one of the Melbourne players kicked out in the tackle and got Sinny in the leg. This not only ruled him out for 60 mins of that WCC, but put him out for weeks.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"It was a cracking game to watch as a neutral but though there was too much involvement from the ref.
Thought the sin binning of Farrell was harsh as the kid was commited and in the air when McGuire put the kick in. How is that worth 10 minutes and Peacocks high tackle not? Rules need tweaking IMO.
The Senior incident the ref got right it was a penalty though there was absolutely no malice from Senior but what he did counts as dangerous play. That said I thought the game was played in the right spirit by both teams making the high penalty count a tad baffling.'"
I see no mention of the Coley incident, or the fact Wigan had a final warning around the 50 min mark yet continued to be penalised further for infringments with no binning
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| Quote ="Austin 3:16"I see no mention of the Coley incident, or the fact Wigan had a final warning around the 50 min mark yet continued to be penalised further for infringments with no binning'"
I am a Hull fan who really didnt care who won today!
Didnt Coley rightly get penalised for lifting the player above the horizontal? Not sure what your point is tbh.
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