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| signed a contract extension at the wests tigers until the end of 2013
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| Aye i read that this morning too, didn't think he'd come back so soon really
Linkage: [urlhttp://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/ellis-to-stay-with-tigers-to-2013-20100512-uwkm.html[/url
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| So that would take him to 32-ish at the end of that contract.
Then back to SL for a couple of final seasons?
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| He told me he wasn't coming back because he doesn't like Ryan Bailey.
[size=85(But when it's going so well for him over there, why would he consider coming home? It's not a tough call)[/size
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| Quote ="Saddened!"He told me he wasn't coming back because he doesn't like Ryan Bailey.'"
You're obsessed with TMFMISL.
Try not mentioning it for a week. Just try. Gayer.
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| Good luck to him, he had the bottle to try it & it's worked out well for him & maybe England too.
Pity for us though because I'd have been delighted to see him pull on a Rhinos shirt again.
Like I now wish we'd re-signed Morley when he returned.
I wonder if that now means even more poms will give it a go down under.
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| Not sure whether it will benefit England or not.
There has been little evidence of it making much of a difference having Morley out there previously and I'm doubtful that situation will change with Ellis and Burgess, especially if they are prevented in any way from returning to play in the mid season international.
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| Quote ="Old Feller"Good luck to him, he had the bottle to try it & it's worked out well for him & maybe England too.
Pity for us though because I'd have been delighted to see him pull on a Rhinos shirt again.
Like I now wish we'd re-signed Morley when he returned.
I wonder if that now means even more poms will give it a go down under.'"
I'd imagine more players would go purely because they know people down there that are becoming a success. There's only really Morley in recent times that has been a success and now theres Ellis, and Burgess and Flanagan are both playing well in their first seasons. Flanagan in particular must take away some of the fear of playing in the competition, he wasn't a particular stand out player here but he's doing well.
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| Good on him, it's working well for him his family all seem settled if the nxt 2 yrs go well he may stay longer
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| Quote ="tvoc"Not sure whether it will benefit England or not.
There has been little evidence of it making much of a difference having Morley out there previously and I'm doubtful that situation will change with Ellis and Burgess, especially if they are prevented in any way from returning to play in the mid season international.'"
Neither am I, that's why I said "maybe".
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| Quote ="inside_man" Flanagan in particular must take away some of the fear of playing in the competition, he wasn't a particular stand out player here but he's doing well.'"
you obviously havnt read his damning report of his time at wigan under nobby have you?
he basically referred it to 5 drives and a kick followed by a good chase,hence your thoughts regarding him not being a stand out player for you,and the reason he chose to move to oz!
but he is doing rather well isn't he,although he is on a very low/subsidised contract by all accounts as his dad "terry <flash> flanagan" has apparently subsidised his first years contract at wests tigers himself in the hope that he can earn himself a decent contract in his own right when it expires!
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| Quote ="Ande"Aye i read that this morning too, didn't think he'd come back so soon really
Linkage: [urlhttp://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/ellis-to-stay-with-tigers-to-2013-20100512-uwkm.html[/url'"
great to read that gaz is extending his stay over there,he has proved to the aussie media that he is a world class player, and in only his first season there,gaz obviously didn't need no settling in period in order that he would be deemed good enough to win their player of the year award in his first season
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| Quote ="Jonesy's a Legend"you obviously havnt read his damning report of his time at wigan under nobby have you?
[uhe basically referred it to 5 drives and a kick followed by a good chase[/u,hence your thoughts regarding him not being a stand out player for you,and the reason he chose to move to oz!
but he is doing rather well isn't he,although he is on a very low/subsidised contract by all accounts as his dad "terry <flash> flanagan" has apparently subsidised his first years contract at wests tigers himself in the hope that he can earn himself a decent contract in his own right when it expires!'"
It seems to me that that is exactly like the game down under.
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| Quote ="Old Feller"Neither am I, that's why I said "maybe".'"
Glad to see you're agreeing with me agreeing with you .... maybe.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Glad to see you're agreeing with me agreeing with you .... maybe.'"
But there's nothing wrong with healthy debate.
If you notice I try never to descend to name calling, you're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.
I respect that.
Regrettably, many on here don't.
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| Of course it benefits England to have players with NRL experience in the side. Whether it benefits England enough to make a difference vs Aus in terms of getting really close or even beating them is a different issue. Unless we get a pair of halfbacks, some decent threequarters and a good fullback, it probably won't matter that much though.
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| It will probably benefit in England if more players play the NRL as it will help to remove the mysticism and demonstrate that one or two players are just boofheads - albeit talented (esp. when compared to man in street).
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Of course it benefits England to have players with NRL experience in the side. Whether it benefits England enough to make a difference vs Aus in terms of getting really close or even beating them is a different issue. Unless we get a pair of halfbacks, some decent threequarters and a good fullback, it probably won't matter that much though.'"
Indeed - anyone who thinks Adrian Morley wasn't improved significantly as a player by his stint at the Roosters is losing the plot.
Having just one player out of 17 with those raised standards however doesn't do you much good.
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| Quote ="Jonesy's a Legend"you obviously havnt read his damning report of his time at wigan under nobby have you?
he basically referred it to 5 drives and a kick followed by a good chase,hence your thoughts regarding him not being a stand out player for you,and the reason he chose to move to oz!
but he is doing rather well isn't he,although he is on a very low/subsidised contract by all accounts as his dad "terry <flash> flanagan" has apparently subsidised his first years contract at wests tigers himself in the hope that he can earn himself a decent contract in his own right when it expires!'"
So what your saying is that it was the system was the reason he wasn't shining? Not too sure about that. Agree that Noble's tactics were poor though, hence he isn't here any more. But he was outshone at every level by players like Joel Tomkins, and wouldn't have been in the first team (imo) this year without Noble had he stayed.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Indeed - anyone who thinks Adrian Morley wasn't improved significantly as a player by his stint at the Roosters is losing the plot.
Having just one player out of 17 with those raised standards however doesn't do you much good.'"
I'd have expected Morley to improve over those six seasons whether he had stayed in the UK or gone out to Australia. His best individual performance in a GB shirt, for me, remains one from '97.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Indeed - anyone who thinks Adrian Morley wasn't improved significantly as a player by his stint at the Roosters is losing the plot.
Having just one player out of 17 with those raised standards however doesn't do you much good.'"
I'm not suggesting he isn't a better player for it but Ellis's international performances since he went down under have been poorer than before, IMO.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Indeed - anyone who thinks Adrian Morley wasn't improved significantly as a player by his stint at the Roosters is losing the plot.'"
Not that I am dissagreeing with you. But Adrian Morley went down there still relatively young. He was always going to improve anyway, regardless of which league he played in.
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| his dad (KENNY) reckons he'll see out his time at the club he supported as a boy, castleford. and before you mock his dad told me he was going to oz a full year before he did although he did say manly but wests came up with the better deal.
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| Quote ="totalloiner"his dad (KENNY) reckons he'll see out his time at the club he supported as a boy, castleford. and before you mock his dad told me he was going to oz a full year before he did although he did say manly but wests came up with the better deal.'"
You mean Castleford Wildcats by the time he comes back?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"You mean Castleford Wildcats by the time he comes back?'"
i said something along those lines aswell
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