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| Leeds are where they are purely because of their injury list
Take 8 first teamers out of any side and see what happens
I should know, we lose Briers and we are "$%£%^^&
They will return, so everyone beware
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| So far this season.
B.Hodgson missed 3
B.Drew missed all 7
J.Lolesi missed 2
P.Whatuira missed 4
K.Mason missed 6
D.Fa'alogo injured last week
S.Wild missed 5
S.Finnigan missed all 7
D.Kirmond missed all 7 now gone to Wakey
M.Aspinwall missed 3
M.Lawrence missed 1
S.Grix missed 1
L.Patrick missed 1
G.Horne missed 2
Not heard us mention our injury list. 14 1st teamers missed at least 1 game so far this season.
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| Quote ="PONNER"So far this season.
B.Hodgson missed 3
B.Drew missed all 7
J.Lolesi missed 2
P.Whatuira missed 4
K.Mason missed 6
D.Fa'alogo injured last week
S.Wild missed 5
S.Finnigan missed all 7
D.Kirmond missed all 7 now gone to Wakey
M.Aspinwall missed 3
M.Lawrence missed 1
S.Grix missed 1
L.Patrick missed 1
G.Horne missed 2
Not heard us mention our injury list. 14 1st teamers missed at least 1 game so far this season.'"
well when you have won a triphy maybe people will take notice of you
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| Quote ="PONNER"So far this season.
B.Hodgson missed 3
B.Drew missed all 7
J.Lolesi missed 2
P.Whatuira missed 4
K.Mason missed 6
D.Fa'alogo injured last week
S.Wild missed 5
S.Finnigan missed all 7
D.Kirmond missed all 7 now gone to Wakey
M.Aspinwall missed 3
M.Lawrence missed 1
S.Grix missed 1
L.Patrick missed 1
G.Horne missed 2
Not heard us mention our injury list. 14 1st teamers missed at least 1 game so far this season.'"
But have you had 9 missing two weeks on the trot?
Of those
Mason, Finnigan, Horne, Kirmond, Drew, Grix are all fringe players who would not get into your full strength side, and you have had the injuries spread - so it is hardly the same as missing Sinfield, Peacock, Donald, Ablett, Delanney, Leulieu, Eastwood who would start in a full strength Leeds side all at the same time.
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| Think the only players that have played every match this year for Leeds are senior, mcguire, burrow, diskin, jjb.
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| Mason a fringe player? Showing you no nothing about the game there flower. He was one of the form props in SL last season. Leeds have over recent years bought a good 17 or so and filled the rest of the squad with kids. This year though you've been hit with injuries and it's taking it's toll. The Giants on the other hand have spread the salary over a good 25 or so players who can fill in when injuries occur without losing much if any quality.
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| Quote ="PONNER"Mason a fringe player? Showing you no nothing about the game there flower. He was one of the form props in SL last season. Leeds have over recent years bought a good 17 or so and filled the rest of the squad with kids. This year though you've been hit with injuries and it's taking it's toll. The Giants on the other hand have spread the salary over a good 25 or so players who can fill in when injuries occur without losing much if any quality.'"
Time will tell - so you agree the rest would not start in your full strength line up - flower?
I would suggest Mason would also struggle to get a start but you know better than me.
The Rhinos have always had 22 senior players and 2/3 youngsters in their 25 - Jones Bishop is one - he is at Harlequins.
How many home grown youngsters do Huddersfield have in their 25?
Last night Leeds had 9 that had come through their academy
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| we had 10 out for over a month last season and came 2nd.
You'll be there or thereabouts by september
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| Quote ="PONNER"Mason a fringe player? Showing you no nothing about the game there flower. He was one of the form props in SL last season. Leeds have over recent years bought a good 17 or so and filled the rest of the squad with kids. This year though you've been hit with injuries and it's taking it's toll. The Giants on the other hand have spread the salary over a good 25 or so players who can fill in when injuries occur without losing much if any quality.'"
This really is getting ridiculous now
We have a Huddersfield fan extolling the virtues of great salary cap management to the fans of one of if not the best examples in Superleague who have constantly displayed fantastic management of the cap (not just for one season but for the last 6 or 7), proven not only in the players they have produced for our own benefit but also the ones they have produced and had to release whilst still maintaining a championship winning squad
Please tell me you weren't being serious Ponner? Telling Leeds fans about how to get the best out of a squad and managing it properly against the cap is one of the funniest yet most depressing things I have probably read on here. Depressing that someone who has so many posts might genuinely have that opinion. You are clearly getting very carried away at this Leeds blip.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"we had 10 out for over a month last season and came 2nd.
You'll be there or thereabouts by september'"
10 of your starting line up?
Leeds had 8 last night that would start in their full strength starting team
All Leeds need to do is finish in the 8 and have a near full strength side and they can still win it - let's face it nobody would want to face them that's for sure
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"Time will tell - so you agree the rest would not start in your full strength line up - flower? '" All of them could be classed as first choice starters, I picked out Mason as he arguably had his best season ever last year and was one of the best props in the comp. It depends which players he chooses to pick against whoever we're playing against.
Quote ="Serge A. Storms"I would suggest Mason would also struggle to get a start but you know better than me. '"
Quote ="Serge A. Storms"The Rhinos have always had 22 senior players and 2/3 youngsters in their 25 - Jones Bishop is one - he is at Harlequins.
How many home grown youngsters do Huddersfield have in their 25?
Last night Leeds had 9 that had come through their academy'"
They had no choice last night due to the injury list. Would that have been so many with a full squad available? It's well known that we're producing our own talent that are coming through the ranks and now making themselves a name in SL ie Crabtree, Cudjoe, Lawrence, Raleigh etc plenty more on the way too
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| Quote ="RescuedBlue"This really is getting ridiculous now
We have a Huddersfield fan extolling the virtues of great salary cap management to the fans of one of if not the best examples in Superleague who have constantly displayed fantastic management of the cap (not just for one season but for the last 6 or 7), proven not only in the players they have produced for our own benefit but also the ones they have produced and had to release whilst still maintaining a championship winning squad
Please tell me you weren't being serious Ponner? Telling Leeds fans about how to get the best out of a squad and managing it properly against the cap is one of the funniest yet most depressing things I have probably read on here. Depressing that someone who has so many posts might genuinely have that opinion. You are clearly getting very carried away at this Leeds blip.'"
Lucky for 3 years without having a quite a few injuries at the same time helped you win the GF 3 times. Now you've not had the same amount of luck this season and see where you are. Only now are you going through what most teams have faced over the last few years. Stop moaning and get on with it
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"10 of your starting line up?
Leeds had 8 last night that would start in their full strength starting team
All Leeds need to do is finish in the 8 and have a near full strength side and they can still win it - let's face it nobody would want to face them that's for sure'"
I asked this on another thread but with no answer.
Which 8 players wouldn't have played last night if you had a fully fit squad to choose from?
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| Quote ="PONNER"So far this season.
B.Hodgson missed 3
B.Drew missed all 7
J.Lolesi missed 2
P.Whatuira missed 4
K.Mason missed 6
D.Fa'alogo injured last week
S.Wild missed 5
S.Finnigan missed all 7
D.Kirmond missed all 7 now gone to Wakey
M.Aspinwall missed 3
M.Lawrence missed 1
S.Grix missed 1
L.Patrick missed 1
G.Horne missed 2
Not heard us mention our injury list. 14 1st teamers missed at least 1 game so far this season.'"
Exactly. Other teams get on with it. The princesses at leeds have to whine about it
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| Quote ="PONNER"So far this season.
B.Hodgson missed 3
B.Drew missed all 7
J.Lolesi missed 2
P.Whatuira missed 4
K.Mason missed 6
D.Fa'alogo injured last week
S.Wild missed 5
S.Finnigan missed all 7
D.Kirmond missed all 7 now gone to Wakey
M.Aspinwall missed 3
M.Lawrence missed 1
S.Grix missed 1
L.Patrick missed 1
G.Horne missed 2
Not heard us mention our injury list. 14 1st teamers missed at least 1 game so far this season.'"
All at once?
Thought not.
Quote ="PONNER"Mason a fringe player? Showing you no nothing about the game there flower. He was one of the form props in SL last season. Leeds have over recent years bought a good 17 or so and filled the rest of the squad with kids. This year though you've been hit with injuries and it's taking it's toll. The Giants on the other hand have spread the salary over a good 25 or so players who can fill in when injuries occur without losing much if any quality.'"
..................and will ultimately win fook all because of it.
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| Quote ="PONNER"Lucky for 3 years without having a quite a few injuries at the same time helped you win the GF 3 times. Now you've not had the same amount of luck this season and see where you are. Only now are you going through what most teams have faced over the last few years. Stop moaning and get on with it
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Leeds have won the title 4 times in the last 6 years. You are now saying that was luck because we didn't have injuries (which we did by the way), and not down to great management both through the coaching of the team, and the management of the salary cap?
Yet Huddersfield, who have won nothing in the Superleague era, are one of the front runners of salary cap management and of maintaining a quality 25 man squad
Your jealousy and Leeds hatred is duly noted, you clown!
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| Quote ="RescuedBlue"Leeds have won the title 4 times in the last 6 years. You are now saying that was luck because we didn't have injuries (which we did by the way), and not down to great management both through the coaching of the team, and the management of the salary cap?'"
Yup. That's what he's saying. He's always been thick but this takes the biscuit.
Quote ="RescuedBlue"Yet Huddersfield, who have won nothing in the Superleague era, are one of the front runners of salary cap management and of maintaining a quality 25 man squad'"
Yup. That's exactly what he's saying. For a lame troll he's cerainly making himself look more stupid than I ever imagined possible.
Next he'll be saying the Giants didnt choke in the cup final or the play offs last year.
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| Quote ="PONNER"I asked this on another thread but with no answer.
Which 8 players wouldn't have played last night if you had a fully fit squad to choose from?'"
Donald, delaney, ablett, eastwood, peacock, leuleui, sinfield + watkins first man in if a back gets injured.
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| Quote ="mps"Donald, delaney, ablett, eastwood, peacock, leuleui, sinfield + watkins first man in if a back gets injured.'"
They would have played.
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| Sorry, my mistake, was getting bored of reading the 5hite being spouted properly.
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| Quote ="PONNER"I asked this on another thread but with no answer.
Which 8 players wouldn't have played last night if you had a fully fit squad to choose from?'"
I answered and listed our 1st choice 17!
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| Stat (i'm sure tvoc will correct me if incorrect) but last season Leeds used 27 players. This season (excluding last night) Leeds have used 27 already.
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| Jeez is it that hard to ask for the names that wouldn't have played last night, had you a full squad available? You're like politicians working your way around questions
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"But have you had 9 missing two weeks on the trot?
Of those
Mason, Finnigan, Horne, Kirmond, Drew, Grix are all fringe players who would not get into your full strength side, and you have had the injuries spread - so it is hardly the same as missing Sinfield, Peacock, Donald, Ablett, Delanney, Leulieu, Eastwood who would start in a full strength Leeds side all at the same time.'"
Who were the 9 who would have definitely played versus HKR and Wigan?
Players who would be expected in the start 17 for the Giants who have missed more than half the games or all of them include: Mason / Wild / Kirmond /Drew / Fatz. To date I think Sinfield has played as many SL games this season as Brett Hodgson.
and Brett Hodgson
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