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| I see the day of the England match against France Leeds play quinns! we could well need these 2 points desperately to stay in the play off race! if it comes to club v country what do people think?
due to our poor start I say sod England we need all hands on deck! not our best players playing in some micky mouse game at the Leigh sports village. what are the implications if we pull our players? Can we do it? Should we do it?
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| The way we are going we won't have many players in the squad anyway. But offcourse we shouldn't stop players from representing England. We aren't in such a bad crisis and Quins is a winable fixture with whoever plays.
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| Which Leeds players would you select if you were the England coach (whoever he is) on this seasons form?
Peacock....... Jones-Bishop maybe
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| Quote ="tvoc"Which Leeds players would you select if you were the England coach (whoever he is) on this seasons form?
Peacock....... Jones-Bishop maybe'"
From the team that played in the 2009 4 nations final, only three were from Leeds, Hall, Sinfield and Peacock. Im not sure who else the new England coach would want to select really.
Team is here [urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/8358392.stm[/url(cant do the smug link word thing). Apart from Ellis and Burgess, who probably wont make the trip, which Leeds players would be picked over players in that England team?
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| Sod England, for two reasons:
1, The RFL couldn't give a rats left testicle about Leeds possibly been without a number of key players.
2, The players wont get anything from the England game anyway. What good will racking up a cricket score do?
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| Didnt realise you got a choice
Im sure if they are picked, they'll play for England
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| Quote ="Bondi_Warrior"Im sure if they are picked, they'll play for England'"
And if there are enough of them (which I don't think there will be) then Leeds have the option to postpone, which they won't anyway.
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| Quote ="tvoc"And if there are enough of them (which I don't think there will be) then Leeds have the option to postpone, which they won't anyway.'"
who are catalan due to play that weekend?
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| Quote ="J O N N Y"who are catalan due to play that weekend?'"
As it stands at the moment Les Catalans are due to be away at Castleford the following day.
In 2008 they got their Round 19 game at Wakefield pushed back to the following Tuesday (and won 14-30)
In 2009 they re-sceduled their Round 16 match away at Salford to the 7th August which was after Round 23.
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| If Ian Kirke got selected I'd have no hesitation of allowing him to go play for England............
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| Quote ="G1"If Ian Kirke got selected I'd have no hesitation of allowing him to go play for England............'"
how big an IF i that though?!!
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| I have my fingers crossed for the lad.
If he makes it I hope we free him up for a few weeks before the game in preparation and a few weeks after the game for recovery.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"Sod England, for two reasons:
1, The RFL couldn't give a rats left testicle about Leeds possibly been without a number of key players.
2, The players wont get anything from the England game anyway. What good will racking up a cricket score do?'"
Excellently put sir.
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| England are more important than Leeds
Anything to beat the Aussies!
Remember kids, the SL regular rounds don't count
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| I think we were faced with this a couple of years ago. England played France on a Friday in France and the following day Leeds played Cas at Headingley and won 18-12 with a weakened team, all those Leeds players that played for England could not get back from France in time to play the game.
St Helens however played on the Sunday and therefore played a full strength side with all their international players as they could get back in time to play the game given the extra day. St Helens went on to stuff whoever they were playing by 40+ points. England v France should be a game for up and coming players not established internationals.
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| Quote ="tvoc"And if there are enough of them (which I don't think there will be) then Leeds have the option to postpone, which they won't anyway.'"
If we have four players selected we have the option to re-schedule and of course tvoc is correct, in recent seasons we have not done that. We have not done this because our league position has been quite secure and you will always have the issue of when you play a re-scheduled game, usually shoe-horned between two regular fixtures, meaning you don't have players as well rested as normal. So do you play with well rested players but missing 4 (or more) regular first team'ers, or wait for those first team'ers to be available, but having to play a game three days after their last?
That all said it will depend on exactly where we sit the week before the fixture and knowing, if we do indeed have four players in the squad, what the impact maybe on the club for either option.
Incidentally, it is difficult for a player to refuse to play in a representative match without very good reason if picked. If they do they can't play for their club anyway in the time they are required to be on representative duty, so the previous 5 days before the game and the day of the game itself. A player is likely to be guilty of misconduct and suspended and fined accordingly. The only accepted exception to this rules seems to be when older players 'retire' from international duty, after previously been an integral part of the international set up.
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| Why is this thread onto two pages? Not even worth considering.
Who in their right mind is going to pick a Leeds player other than Hall for this meaningless game, based on current form? And Hall would only be in because of the lack of alternatives.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Why is this thread onto two pages? Not even worth considering.
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Hark at you telling people what they can and can't discuss. If me or Danny do that you're the first to start bleating.
Quote Who in their right mind is going to pick a Leeds player other than Hall for this meaningless game, based on current form? And Hall would only be in because of the lack of alternatives.'" Since when he England/GB coaches been in their right mind when it comes to selection. Besides which why would an England coach be too concerned with form from February and M<arch when he picks a test side in June?
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| Quote ="G1"Since when he England/GB coaches been in their right mind when it comes to selection. Besides which why would an England coach be too concerned with form from February and M<arch when he picks a test side in June?'"
I'm going to agree with you, and accept your slap down. So why discuss it now then?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I'm going to agree with you, and accept your slap down. So why discuss it now then?'"
It's friday and I am bored with work. You got something better to do?
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| Quote ="G1"It's friday and I am bored with work. You got something better to do?'"
Yeah. Unfortunatley, I am stock taking. But as I am overseeing it all, I can take these little breaks.
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| Turns out I did. I went to court then played badminton.
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| Quote ="G1"Turns out I did. I went to court then played badminton.'"
You played badminton in court? You can tell it's a Friday afternoon.
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| The judge was 79 and nodded off half way through.
I still lost.
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