Will we miss him much?
And btw this is not a thread having a go at Kallum Watkins at all.

I think you would have won had he played tonight.

I think tonight showed we miss him, he's a quality winger and a specialist winger, Watkins is a young inexperienced centre playing wing but he's only going to improve and fulfil his potential by playing games and now he's got his chance. I hope once Leeds get back to hitting there straps Watkins has a fabulous season and is knocking on the door for a centre spot next season.

Never thought I'd say it, but we certainly missed Scotty last night, and I hope those two blown chances dont affect Watkin's confidence.

I have to hold my hands up. A critic of Donald I have not shyed away from. I called for Watkins to be playing wing instead of him, and although not pleased with Donalds injury, was pleased to see us have to go with Watkins on the wing.

I ate humble pie last night. Watkins is not a finisher and far from it. Donald would have scored those two with ease last night. I actually think he would have stood a fair chance with the kick one aswell that Watkins divered over.

Scotty would have finished Watkins' chances with his eyes closed - he scores those tries week after week. We would have won the game if he was playing.

I think he'd have probably scored one of those two efforts in that scenario, but (without taking this debate way too deep) his inclusion would have taken the match in a completely different direction which none of us can predict.

I don't think he would have finished either personally. Watkins did well under pressure to get as close to grounding both as he did.

I think he'd have got the first one relatively comfortably. Watkins was under pressure but that's the kind of thing an experienced winger is used to.

Anymore excuses for your Back2Back WCC failures and I might just die of laughter

Fingers crossed.

I've got to say it's harsh to blame Watkins i've seen international players butcher better chances that occured last night.

It might be harsh, but it is something he has got to learn from.

Bread and butter super league is one thing, but when you play in finals you find the number of chances are much reduced, and more importance on taking them.

Blowing one can be excusable, blowing two is extremely costly, as proven.

You reckon he "blew" both of those?

I thought the second one in particular he did well to get as close as he did without being pushed into touch.

Seconded

You might, but I don't. I am more expectant of my wingers.

Motion carried. I'll grab my shotgun.

I agree, the second one would have been a lot closer if he hadn't stumbled. The first one he did well to get over the line, but was bad to drop the ball stretching.

I think last year he made a lot of handling errors, either through daft offloads, or a loose carry. These are different though as stretching for the corner is a totally different skill, and as a centre by trade one he won't have had as much practice at as Donald.

He should have converted the first one. There was no need to extend his arms out to try and plant it down, it should have been in both arms, held tightly to his chest. These things are all part of experience and that's exactly how you gain the experience. Not having a go at Kallum at all, as he was player out of position in a very big game.
The second one was a very difficult finish, not sure Donald would have made it, it was one an Inglis/ Vainikolo probably would score, not sure about many other wide players.

I just had a mental picture of Elma Fudd armed and dangerous singing "Kill the Wabbit"

that's a very good point, should have slid in for the first though, in those conditions.

Re: Watkins. The first I think he should have got, the second was good defence to get him into the corner flag first before the (almost inevitable) fumble and I don't think you can altogether ignore him leaving his wing when Delaney had Inglis lined up allowing Quinn the overlap for the final score. Again that was an issue present last season also.

The potential is there but he's still a way to go.

Do you think he's going to be ready to be the left centre when/if Senior hangs up the boots next year?

I know you are asking tvoc, but will just throw in a viewpoint.

We will know more about that over the next 12 weeks. Truth is, if he can't look the part on the wing over the next 12 weeks, then it is going to be some step up to replace Senior.

No excuses, the game time he needed is here now, and it's up to him to take it and learn.

Thank you for doing so. Your viewpoint is most welcome.