If these guys are the next generation of talent in GB, then we have got problems at international level. This was one of the Tigers biggest matches of the season, and an opportunity for them to show they can play on the big stage.

Shenton was totally outclassed by Keith, and looked out of his depth. Has he ever played in front on 17000 before? Probably not. This wasn't some joke test match against France.

I've never quite got where Westerman gets his reputation from, and he just got done over.

I doubt that the Aussies and Kiwis are shaking in their boots.

Shenny was playing a strange role last night, seemed to be somewhere between scrum half and centre.... Never quite understood it, not even now

And Westy hasn't been the same this season, he was great last season but lost it this year. Getting the knock on the head a few months ago hasn't helped his confidence by the look of it either

"2nd season syndrome" for Westerman. 2nd season in Sl anyway.

Shenton I don't think has ever been all that.

Rumours of discontent in the camp as Castleford tighten their belts. How badly did Castleford miss Richard Owen's enthusiasm last night?

Shenton is still a good player (although clearly not on last night's performance) but Senior is still the best centre in SL. I really hope he isn't lost to the Leeds second row too much next season.

Every time I've watched Cas on telly to monitor Shenton this year (in light of the rumours) I've been massively underwhelmed but I've regularly said on here that Owen looks a cracker.

Not a patch on Paul Sykes.

















I couln't even keep a straight face whilst typing that.

Me also!

ever since he was at Oulton he had promise

i have to agree that when i've watched shenton to see what all the fuss is about i've been rather underwhelmed.

Kallum Watkins looks like the most promising british younster to me in that department, although he has some way to go yet.

I still think that Ryan Hall would make a cracking centre for you lot, not that he's not already a cracking winger.

Aye to be fair you have, i've got to admit he seems to have lost it somewhat!!!
Agree re-owen aswell cracking player and has a great future if he keeps his head down and working hard.

Did Westerman play last night ?

As for Shenton, he was so owned by Keef last night that the Squeef E-Bay Meister could be flogging the centre on a certain auction based web-site.

They both played, unfortunately almost entirely without the ball



I wouldn't be so harsh if I were you, they are class players no doubt. They aren't helped by playing for a cluless coach, especially in Westermans case, Matterson is ruining him.



What really staggered me last night was your "youngsters" having the physiques of seasoned power lifters/bodybuilders! How on earth do they get so big so young

Seriously, Leeds are doing something completely different to Cas on last nights evidence. The lads are absolute monsters

We have uber conditioner jason davidson!!

Hall as a centre is something ive thought of, just because of his power and strength at such a young age.

Nothing to do with us having the worst game for years last night then ?

You know how good Westy and Shenny are so try and take the mick the fact is they are both England players when they are on form.

And we all saw how well England went when faced with the best sides in the world - anyone who thinks Shenton could live with the likes of Hodges and Inglis is simply deluded as for Westerman he is unlikely to even make the side - he looked great playing in NL1

Westerman was young player of the year last year unless i'm mistaken and just because he hasn't really hit it off this year doesn't mean he's "" it probably means he got too cocky. Silly statement to say the lad will never make the side...very silly statement.

As for Shenny he's had King, Senior, Gleeson etc in his pocket at times this year and last so another silly statement.

Judging a player on 1 or 2 games you have seen him this season ? Typical Whino.

But not been on the winning side either time facing Uncle Keef ....

There`s two muppets who stand behind me at the back of the SS who constantly slag off Senior no matter what he does.
If he makes a break or a try scoring pass they say he has been lucky.
I think they need to get nearer the front of the stand as they clearly can not see class when it is so far away.
Great performance by keith last night and probably the best centre playing this season.
Long may it continue.

Because he plays for a far superior side. If it was the other way around and Senior played for Cas it would be the same result so errrrm...what's your point ?

Whoosh

Honestly? Certainly not last night. It Hall had been outside Evans for example it is likely that he would have scored atleast 3 tries less than he did.

Good coach and good conditioner - simple, Cas have neither.